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Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by steve_avery »

jiveturkey wrote: post #79
headmelted wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see these posts, and my gut feeling is that Mullvad is probably fairly trustworthy at this moment in time, but the more word of their service spreads the more likely I would assume it is that they get approached by the type of government representatives you don’t say no to. (I.e. I assume success to be a death knell for a service like this.) I’m not a customer, but I’ve considered it from a privacy perspective (in…

> at this moment in time yup. So was The Great Suspender. This is why privacy is a one-way circuit breaker kind of system. Once you give your privacy away, you can never assume anything about how your data is used. No matter the entity, you simply cannot trust that they will hold your data secure and use it in your best interests. Even Apple, hell even Signal, has leaky bits and "side channels" that can, and you must…

I assume you are talking about the chrome plugin "the great suspender"; I am not sure what controversy you refer to? What happened to it?

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by EwanToo »

deostroll wrote: post #87

Suppose a GoI website is geo-blocked such that only the citizens of India can access it. Now that a global vpn company has removed its servers out of India, does it mean its customers (while using that vpn service) is blocked from accessing the said website? Or is there some other implication here? Curious to know.

They'll register (or purchase) IP address blocks that are marked as Indian in the various GeoIP databases, then assign those IP addresses to servers hosted outside India.

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by growwrkr6 »

jiveturkey wrote: post #83
TechieKid wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sidechannels in Signal is news to me. Can you provide some keywords to search for, or any links?

The contact discovery services leaks the fact that you are using Signal. It is not optional. It's clear why that is, so I won't spell it out.

They can get download records from Google or Apple to check for Signal downloads.

So there’s really no reason for Signal to try and hide one is merely using Signal. Best to focus on securing content.

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by randombits0 »

padheyam wrote: post #71
DarthNebo wrote: post #2

Wonder whether the government of India makes any demarcation between corporate VPN or personal VPNs? Or is it just consumer VPN services that need to comply. Everything from cloud vendors, ZScaler, Cisco AnyConnect are technically offering access to private networks with a mix of public internet &/or intranet

After much hullabaloo from the industry, government has clarified that this order does not apply to corporate VPNs.

And BAM! I’m a corporation! Hey Sai, wanna be in my corporation?

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

#95

Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

throwaway92394 wrote: post #58
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvad is not small.

Mullvad isn't small, and I'm not sure how Nord specifically compares, but its probaubly worth noting they mostly use 100TB, Tzulo, Quadranet, M247, and 31173. They use a bunch of others but not much. Mullvad for obvious reasons is used for less... wonderful usecases. It's not uncommon for websites to block you due to abuse from that exit. ASN blocking is rather common with mullvad too though that's less avoidable. I…

I saw NordVPN ads in German TV. At this point I would say they invest all of their money into marketing - my reason for never ever buying their product. I haven't had any issues in terms of blocking on mullvad but my sample size is small since I don't change the servers that often.

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by ar_lan »

steve_avery wrote: post #91
jiveturkey wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> at this moment in time yup. So was The Great Suspender. This is why privacy is a one-way circuit breaker kind of system. Once you give your privacy away, you can never assume anything about how your data is used. No matter the entity, you simply cannot trust that they will hold your data secure and use it in your best interests. Even Apple, hell even Signal, has leaky bits and "side channels" that can, and you must…

I assume you are talking about the chrome plugin "the great suspender"; I am not sure what controversy you refer to? What happened to it?

See https://github.com/greatsuspender/thegreatsuspender/issues/1...

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

#97

Post by throwaway92394 »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #95
throwaway92394 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mullvad isn't small, and I'm not sure how Nord specifically compares, but its probaubly worth noting they mostly use 100TB, Tzulo, Quadranet, M247, and 31173. They use a bunch of others but not much. Mullvad for obvious reasons is used for less... wonderful usecases. It's not uncommon for websites to block you due to abuse from that exit. ASN blocking is rather common with mullvad too though that's less avoidable. I…

I saw NordVPN ads in German TV. At this point I would say they invest all of their money into marketing - my reason for never ever buying their product. I haven't had any issues in terms of blocking on mullvad but my sample size is small since I don't change the servers that often.

Yeah my impression is they're all marketing and care relatively little about privacy. How you can claim to care about privacy but still require an email is beyond me.

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by poppytaker »

BlueTankEngine wrote: post #76
xeromal wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the thoughts on PIA? I've used them for years without issue, but I'm sure they're harvesting my data. lol

PIA has proven in court multiple times that they don't log. Everyone in this post worrying about Kape is probably not using their vpns for anything illegal in their jurisdiction, and are just obsessed with "privacy"

Has PIA proven in court not to log subsequent to being purchased?

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by jiveturkey »

growwrkr6 wrote: post #93
jiveturkey wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The contact discovery services leaks the fact that you are using Signal. It is not optional. It's clear why that is, so I won't spell it out.

They can get download records from Google or Apple to check for Signal downloads. So there’s really no reason for Signal to try and hide one is merely using Signal. Best to focus on securing content.

You are missing the attack vector here.

Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India

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Post by fourthark »

jiveturkey wrote: post #83
TechieKid wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sidechannels in Signal is news to me. Can you provide some keywords to search for, or any links?

The contact discovery services leaks the fact that you are using Signal. It is not optional. It's clear why that is, so I won't spell it out.

It is optional isn’t it? I never gave Signal permission to read my contacts and yet I still use it.
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