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Post by wrycoder »

omgsean wrote: post #120
hooande wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how large was the "pandemic bailout"? it looked like two checks from the govt and Was this enough to make a large number of people stop working, even now into mid-2022? I really feel like the impact of several thousand dollars would be gone after a year, at most. yet many businesses near me are still under staffed and having trouble hiring.

The idea that it's caused by "bailouts" is just a talking point. Personally I think it boils down to a few things: 1. Older people taking retirement early when the pandemic hit. 2. People in service/public-facing industries leaving for jobs that could be done remotely, or going back to school. 3. Several hundred thousand working age people dying from COVID.

For 3: the vast majority of those who died were over 60.

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Post by joenathanone »

gcheong wrote: post #149
joenathanone wrote: post #123

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You can appeal the ruling, all the way up to presenting your case before a judge(at least in AZ).

Probably hard to justify spending the time to pursue it in most cases.

I have and do, otherwise my unemployment insurance rates rise the following year, if that isn't a concern for you then sure. I also only fire for cause.

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Post by btilly »

notch656a wrote: post #142
btilly wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is a person with a criminal record, no job, no support network, and no savings supposed to move to another country?

Several options 1) Marshall islands or Micronesia. Buy flight on credit, do farm or whatever labor you can to eat while you get booted. No visa needed to live or work. 2) Some nations such as Argentina have effectively no immigration enforcement. Once you're in the country you're good and you can file a court case to become a citizen immediately (you'll have to wait 2+ year for it to be granted). In the meantime the…

Most of these are bad advice.

First, flying on credit isn't nearly as easy as you make it out to be. Yes, a bunch of companies are buy now, pay later. They fall into two groups. The first does it based on your credit. The second is a layaway plan - by the time you get on the plane you've managed to pay in full. Ex-cons struggling to get a job usually have neither. Nobody wants to give money to a person who looks like they are trying to disappear. (Because you just know your money is going to disappear with them...)

Second, a lot of your plans require going to countries where you need another language. That's going to be a challenge for most ex-cons.

Third, while the French Foreign Legion is romantic and all, they won't take you if they find you have a criminal record. Other foreign legions are similar. They might not find out, but do you want to spend your life savings betting on that?

Fourth, marrying someone from another country is an uphill battle for someone who lacks a job. Particularly when most of the women from those countries looking to marry an American would like to wind up in the USA rather than the reverse.

These are all amazing plans, and I'm sure that some succeed with each. But they're going to work out poorly for most ex-cons who try them.

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Post by prawn »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #126
RBBronson123 wrote: post #99

When I announced the launch of 70 Million Jobs on HN back in 2017, it proved to be one of the most widely read and discussed posts ever on the site. I was totally blown away. Once again, I am struck by the incredibly sensitive and supportive tenor of the reactions to my news here. For some context, besides having a criminal record, I was/am a solo founder who somehow talked his way into Y Comb. Perhaps most surprisin…

This sounds awesome, I want to do something similar, only with housing for people with bad credit, or records, or anything really that makes keeping housing rough. My grand idea is creating an intentional community with some glamping areas for cashflow, a community garden, shared tools and worker space with 3d printers, recreational vehicles, brooms, rakes, etc...things you really don't need to 'own', and cut back on…

A friend is working on tiny housing for homeless. There is a premium tier of the tiny houses that I think helps to fundraise for the Calyx pods. https://foragebuilt.com.au/

But I think ultimately you’d be building a trailer park for the more troubled parts of society and that might cause it to be less idyllic than you envisage.

I’ve previously done some marketing work for an apartment building that focuses on mixing previously homeless in with other tenants plus support services on site.

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Post by donthellbanme »

RBBronson123 wrote: post #145

There seems to be some confusion here over my use of the expression, "The Great Resignation." https://www.investopedia.com/the-great-resignation-5199074 This is a economic/workforce phenomenon that began amidst the pandemic and continues. (The NY Times reported today that there are 11.4 million unfilled jobs. That's historically off the charts.) My company operates/ed a job board and a staffing business. Both ran lik…

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Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by notch656a »

btilly wrote: post #173
notch656a wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Several options 1) Marshall islands or Micronesia. Buy flight on credit, do farm or whatever labor you can to eat while you get booted. No visa needed to live or work. 2) Some nations such as Argentina have effectively no immigration enforcement. Once you're in the country you're good and you can file a court case to become a citizen immediately (you'll have to wait 2+ year for it to be granted). In the meantime the…

Most of these are bad advice. First, flying on credit isn't nearly as easy as you make it out to be. Yes, a bunch of companies are buy now, pay later. They fall into two groups. The first does it based on your credit. The second is a layaway plan - by the time you get on the plane you've managed to pay in full. Ex-cons struggling to get a job usually have neither. Nobody wants to give money to a person who looks like…

If you simply look for ways to fail, you'll never succeed.

My statement is direct towards goal oriented people who want to succeed and are willing to iteratively test their options until something works. Not failures who are unwilling to take a risk or work for a reward. If you can't get a credit card, then hitchhike and/or volunteer on a yacht or just be homeless and work day labor that doesn't check your record until you've saved up a chunk.

An individual who is capable of success is capable of tirelessly executing options until they find one that works. And that is possible. Staying in the US means you will never fully regain your civil rights if convicted of a federal crime. Leaving means you have the chance of having the full civil rights of a citizen, somewhere.

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Post by rmbyrro »

notch656a wrote: post #142
btilly wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is a person with a criminal record, no job, no support network, and no savings supposed to move to another country?

Several options 1) Marshall islands or Micronesia. Buy flight on credit, do farm or whatever labor you can to eat while you get booted. No visa needed to live or work. 2) Some nations such as Argentina have effectively no immigration enforcement. Once you're in the country you're good and you can file a court case to become a citizen immediately (you'll have to wait 2+ year for it to be granted). In the meantime the…

Please, please be very cautious, read this comment critically, consult a friend or anyone minimally smart before doing any of this stuff.

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Post by UnpossibleJim »

RBBronson123 wrote: post #145

There seems to be some confusion here over my use of the expression, "The Great Resignation." https://www.investopedia.com/the-great-resignation-5199074 This is a economic/workforce phenomenon that began amidst the pandemic and continues. (The NY Times reported today that there are 11.4 million unfilled jobs. That's historically off the charts.) My company operates/ed a job board and a staffing business. Both ran lik…

I know this is a bit off topic, but even during the "Great Resignation", as I always do I keep my eyes open on the job market (non-felon with a good work history, so this is a departure from the conversation, I apologize). With all of the complaints from employers about "We can't find people to work for us!", even in the software industry (which is well payed, compared to a lot of my friends), I didn't see the expected raise in the offering salaries for such claimed desperation. Especially when inflation is pushing from the bottom and housing prices (at least in the Seattle area, my area) are still nuts. The expectations of experience are laughable and, frankly, to be to be ignored at this point. I'm not even sure who writes the spec sheets for positions.

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Post by irrational »

cinntaile wrote: post #84
irrational wrote: post #46

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Back to the way it was pre-pandemic. I work for a Fortune 100 company with great pay and fantastic benefits (I am on a 6 week paid sabbatical right now). But whereas before people would stay with the company for 5-10 years, now they are leaving in droves (not because anything bad is happening at the company, we are doing great) and nobody is sticking around.

> I am on a 6 week paid sabbatical right now Here in Europe we call that vacation.

Well, I have enough vacation saved up that I could take 2 and a half months of vacation. That, plus my sabbatical, plus the 10 days of holidays we are given a year, plus the week off we get each summer means I could take nearly 5 months of vacation. On top of that, we get every Friday off as a paid day between Memorial Day and Labor Day (June-August).

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by danans »

RBBronson123 wrote: post #145

There seems to be some confusion here over my use of the expression, "The Great Resignation." https://www.investopedia.com/the-great-resignation-5199074 This is a economic/workforce phenomenon that began amidst the pandemic and continues. (The NY Times reported today that there are 11.4 million unfilled jobs. That's historically off the charts.) My company operates/ed a job board and a staffing business. Both ran lik…

> During the Great Resignation, we found it took 10x the time and effort to get someone placed, eroding our already thin margins. Plus, if a worker left (which they began doing at a great rate)

Where do you think they went? If they mostly went to work elsewhere because as part of the "Great Resignation" because they found better opportunities, then perhaps you accomplished your social mission (which was presumably giving them a foot in the door of gainful work), even if it was at the price of the business.

Maybe structural impediments to employment for felons came down due to a tightening labor market?

For example, in CA, laws are being passed to allow formerly incarcerated wildlands firefighters to work in that job after release:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...

If they resigned instead due to hopelessness and falling back through the proverbial cracks of society, that's a terrible result.

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