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Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by spencerflem »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #85
kome wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because the wages are very low and the work loads way too high. Some link: "How the current worker shortage is really a wage shortage" https://www.nynmedia.com/content/opinion-how-current-worker-... "It’s not a labor shortage — it’s a wage and workers rights shortage" https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/570441-its-not-a-labor-s... "Our employment system has failed low-wage workers. How can we rebuild?" https…

Is this new?

my spitballed guess- people who were working retail type jobs werent able to during the pandemic and then realized, hey, this is optional. I survived without working a shitty job for poverty wage. Why go back?

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by toqy »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #85
kome wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because the wages are very low and the work loads way too high. Some link: "How the current worker shortage is really a wage shortage" https://www.nynmedia.com/content/opinion-how-current-worker-... "It’s not a labor shortage — it’s a wage and workers rights shortage" https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/570441-its-not-a-labor-s... "Our employment system has failed low-wage workers. How can we rebuild?" https…

Is this new?

I don't think it's new, but a lot of people got a taste of what life is like when they aren't breaking their back for minimum wage thanks to the pandemic

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by spencerflem »

ManuelKiessling wrote: post #148
RBBronson123 wrote: post #99

When I announced the launch of 70 Million Jobs on HN back in 2017, it proved to be one of the most widely read and discussed posts ever on the site. I was totally blown away. Once again, I am struck by the incredibly sensitive and supportive tenor of the reactions to my news here. For some context, besides having a criminal record, I was/am a solo founder who somehow talked his way into Y Comb. Perhaps most surprisin…

This might really be a stupid question and I can imagine you have other things to do right now, so zero hard feelings if you don’t answer: But regarding this whole Great Resignation thing, not only in this specific context but in general — there is one thing that I just don’t get: What on earth are these Resignators doing? Where do they go? I mean all those people have to end up SOMEWHERE in the job market, don’t the…

my spitballed guess is that it really is nowhere. anyone out of work for the pandemic and able to survive by living with parents etc. is just still doing that. Why put in 40hr/week when the pay barely even makes rent

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by nikanj »

ManuelKiessling wrote: post #148
RBBronson123 wrote: post #99

When I announced the launch of 70 Million Jobs on HN back in 2017, it proved to be one of the most widely read and discussed posts ever on the site. I was totally blown away. Once again, I am struck by the incredibly sensitive and supportive tenor of the reactions to my news here. For some context, besides having a criminal record, I was/am a solo founder who somehow talked his way into Y Comb. Perhaps most surprisin…

This might really be a stupid question and I can imagine you have other things to do right now, so zero hard feelings if you don’t answer: But regarding this whole Great Resignation thing, not only in this specific context but in general — there is one thing that I just don’t get: What on earth are these Resignators doing? Where do they go? I mean all those people have to end up SOMEWHERE in the job market, don’t the…

My sample size is very small, but they just undo the whole adulthood thing and become children again. Live with parents, eat out of their fridge, hang out with friends and enjoy life

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by native_samples »

omgsean wrote: post #120
hooande wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how large was the "pandemic bailout"? it looked like two checks from the govt and Was this enough to make a large number of people stop working, even now into mid-2022? I really feel like the impact of several thousand dollars would be gone after a year, at most. yet many businesses near me are still under staffed and having trouble hiring.

The idea that it's caused by "bailouts" is just a talking point. Personally I think it boils down to a few things: 1. Older people taking retirement early when the pandemic hit. 2. People in service/public-facing industries leaving for jobs that could be done remotely, or going back to school. 3. Several hundred thousand working age people dying from COVID.

For 3:

a. The official number is ~254,000 (in the USA) which is certainly a major over-estimate. True number is certainly far less.

b. Employees who died or retired don't count as resigned.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

ManuelKiessling wrote: post #148
RBBronson123 wrote: post #99

When I announced the launch of 70 Million Jobs on HN back in 2017, it proved to be one of the most widely read and discussed posts ever on the site. I was totally blown away. Once again, I am struck by the incredibly sensitive and supportive tenor of the reactions to my news here. For some context, besides having a criminal record, I was/am a solo founder who somehow talked his way into Y Comb. Perhaps most surprisin…

This might really be a stupid question and I can imagine you have other things to do right now, so zero hard feelings if you don’t answer: But regarding this whole Great Resignation thing, not only in this specific context but in general — there is one thing that I just don’t get: What on earth are these Resignators doing? Where do they go? I mean all those people have to end up SOMEWHERE in the job market, don’t the…

Maybe they have to end up somewhere in the job market, later. Maybe they got long Covid and are recovering. Maybe the isolation made them decide they needed to take time to consider what they want in life and to pivot/re-train. Even a small portion of the workforce on each reason to resign work, collectively at the same time, looks indistinguishable from a wave.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by oliverx0 »

einpoklum wrote: post #157

> companies made wholesale terminations of nearly all our people The "employment at will" doctrine at work. Terrible. I would attribute that to the weak US labor, and its failure to do away with this via country-wide/industry-wide labor agreements make this impossible, or appropriate legislation. Many (most?) countries don't have this doctrine.

And they are nowhere near as liquid when it comes to employment as in the US. The trade off of not having employment at will is extremely slow hiring processes and a lot of difficulty when firing employees that do not perform well. All in all employment at Will is probably what makes Silicon Valley thrive. Otherwise nobody would dare to start a company.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by daniel-cussen »

selimthegrim wrote: post #102
daniel-cussen wrote: post #89

Your going out of business doesn't undo the great things you did for all those people who needed that second chance. Turns out, for instance, Halcyon Molecular was similar, it went bust losing tons of money but it let me get a decent wage after all the employment discrimination I suffered for standing up to torture (false imprisonment, so very similar, had a gap in my resume I couldn't explain because I didn't realiz…

Your link isn’t working.

Because I'm not a software engineer it won't work until it's ready. It's getting there. The algorithms are ready, though. In the meantime, look at https://skylinesort.com

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by spicybright »

A felony on your record might as well be a gang tattoo on your face.

First I'm hearing of you unfortunately, but thank you so much for your contribution to this terrible issue so many face.

You not only changed many people pull themselves back up, but you put an imprint on the world that yes, people with criminal backgrounds in their past as just as worthy of opportunities as anyone else.

Wish you the best going forward and, if it's the right path for you to walk, wish you luck trying again.

And post your next endeavors on HN more, I'd love to hear about it ;)

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