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Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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There's no incentive for Google to provide backward compatibility for Android, hence they don't.

Then what's the incentive for Apple to do just that? IOS5 runs on the iPhone 3GS, which is older than the Nexus One.

The difference is that 3GS is still being sold. N1 wasn't available on shelves well over one year.

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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The Nexus One is really more comparable to the 3Gs and I think it stands up well against it. I bought mine since I wanted an unlocked phone that didn't require a custom hack to accomplish. I've been considering going back to an iPhone 4s if Apple decides to sell it unlocked from their store.

The online store (at least the US one: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iph... ) says the unlocked version is coming in November but I think that if you buy one from an Apple retail store you can get it unlocked now.

Kind of... if you buy it without extending your existing contract with AT&T, it'll be unlocked when you activate it. I don't think you can just roll in and buy it for cash and without an existing carrier account.

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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post #51

There's no incentive for Google to provide backward compatibility for Android, hence they don't.

Then what's the incentive for Apple to do just that? IOS5 runs on the iPhone 3GS, which is older than the Nexus One.

People who purchase iOS devices are Apple's customers. People who purchase Android devices are not Google' s customers

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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My 3GS is almost unusably slow on iOS5.

I've only upgraded one of the 3GS's to iOS 5, and my experiences pretty much match this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4956/apple-ios-5-review/15 Basically, as fast or faster than 4.3. But mine is a development-only device with no music or other content, so maybe that's the difference.

This is interesting. I don't know if it's something with my phone specifically, but the whole thing just lags by a couple of seconds whenever I try to type something. It's so bad that I'm usually done typing a couple of words by the time the first characters come up on the screen ..

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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It's feasible that Cyanogenmod will release a compatible version though, isn't it?

Do you think ICS can actually run on N1? I do not think so. Otherwise why wouldn't google provide an update? Thus, what do you think cyanogen can do to make ICS properly run on the N1 hardware?

Gingerbread runs fine on the N1 and ICS has no higher hardware requirements (per Google themselves). Other than driver updates for hardware acceleration, there's nothing about the N1 that really disqualifies it from being able to run ICS just fine.

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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taking the time to run great on hardware of that capability pays huge dividends in the phone world. It really won't though, that's the problem. The Nexus One is nearly two years old. It's somewhat of an anomaly because it'll have a higher than average number of off-contract purchases, but in general once a person's contact has run for two years they get a new phone. Two year old phones just aren't that important. Spe…

in general once a person's contact has run for two years they get a new phone That kind of market calculus made sense before the recession. Now the value proposition has changed, and while people may still buy newer hardware (such as tablets) they expect better value from their tech purchasing because increasing wealth is no longer a given. Also, people are more suspicious of corporations in general, especially ones…

Those downvotes need an explanation. If you think it's Apple fanboyism, I'd like to point out that I own 3 Android devices, beta-tested the CR-48, and have never owned anything from Cupertino.

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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Why are people complaining about the Nexus One not being as great as the iPhone 4. Look at the release dates and you'll see that the Nexus One has 6 months on the iPhone 4. If anything compare it to the 3GS and you'll see that it is in fact a much better phone. Google are pushing forward with Android and the Nexus One is unfortunately being left behind. It remains the best phone I've ever owned and I'll definitely be…

the iPhone 3GS is better than Nexus one because it (can) runs iOS 5. your Nexus One is stuck running an old OS.

Except that there will be a CM port available probably by mid or late January.

Re: Google says Nexus One too old for Android 4.0

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Great. I guess I can stop hitting the "Update" thing every day in the hope that 4.0 will appear. I can't help but note that the iPhone 3GS and iPod Touch purchased the same month are already running iOS 5.0 and I haven't noticed any speed issues.

Google updates many parts of "Android" such as Mail, Maps, Youtube, Market etc. independently of the OS. Other parts are improved not on the phone, but server side (e.g. google home page, mobile web interfaces, audio transcription). The bits that it doesn't upgrade (launcher, browser etc.) can often be replaced by 3rd parties, including repackagings of parts of later versions of AOSP.

I was pleasantly surprised how many upgrades my phone (which the vendor never took past 2.1) continually got from Google. I managed to get most of the other features from later AOSP releases, without rooting or anything harder than browsing the market.

In the end I added a custom froyo rom to get the benefit of the JIT (since the device had enough RAM to benefit from it) and will probably jump to CyanogenMod soon.

All in all, in not sure why people are so keen for Google to follow such an archaic and monolithic release model. It's as baffling as the people who care that their browser's version number is changing too fast, except in reverse. It's a mostly meaningless number.

You can start complaing the first day Google switches the new version of Youtube or Maps to supporting 4.0 or above and you actually miss out on features. Most of the stuff they are putting in the OS is hardware-related like dual-core support, NFC beam or soft-keys to replace missing buttons. Even the new font is designed for high-DPI screens.

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