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Post by codeenlightener »

RBBronson123 wrote: post #99

When I announced the launch of 70 Million Jobs on HN back in 2017, it proved to be one of the most widely read and discussed posts ever on the site. I was totally blown away. Once again, I am struck by the incredibly sensitive and supportive tenor of the reactions to my news here. For some context, besides having a criminal record, I was/am a solo founder who somehow talked his way into Y Comb. Perhaps most surprisin…

What are the operational costs of 70MR? What prevents you from scaling to zero employees?

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Post by api_or_ipa »

Wish I had heard about 70million before this post. As many other commenters have mentioned, I too am happy to make a donation to keep your lights on and your mission alive. The biggest tragedy in America is the wholesale disenfranchisement of millions of people due to incarceration.

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Post by throwaway92394 »

btilly wrote: post #129
notch656a wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emigration honestly is the most logical option for a felon. A few nations will accept local background checks in the immigration process, so if you move to a state where you don't have a record you can just get your police report from a place where your record is clean. Another option is to go live in a Compact of Free Association nations such as Micronesia or Marshall Islands. US citizens are authorized to live and…

How is a person with a criminal record, no job, no support network, and no savings supposed to move to another country?

Add no degree. Many especially in CS might even be highly skilled but have no degree to show for it.

EDIT: And only speak e̶n̶g̶l̶i̶s̶h̶ a single language.

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Post by mynameishere »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #118
torbTurret wrote: post #81

“These are some of the most sincere, honest, and heroic people I’ve ever met.” Yeah, I think we’re too hard as a nation on ex-cons. But they’re not heroes because they went through self-imposed hardships (and almost always at the expense of someone innocent). And they’re certainly among the lower rungs of honesty by categorization. Nowhere near the top. If this sounds harsh, just act their victims.

fuck offffff seriously. The hardships aren't self-imposed, our justice system is specifically and intentionally retributive , imposing punishment for its own sake rather than imposing consequences with the goal of rehabilitation. And we're talking here of additional ad-hoc social punishments beyond the terms of the sentence that make finding a job harder. The level of personal discipline it takes to get released and…

The level of personal discipline it takes to get released and stay "good" on probation is far beyond what we expect from workers in general and almost certainly stricter than either of us requires for ourselves.

Yeah, it's part of the corrections system. You go on probation or parole and they keep you on a leash. It's intentional. If you don't like it, you can serve out the whole term.

"Saintly". For god's sake people. Listen to yourselves. How many cars I gotta jack before people start calling me a saint, anyway?

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Post by torbTurret »

javajosh wrote: post #119
torbTurret wrote: post #81

“These are some of the most sincere, honest, and heroic people I’ve ever met.” Yeah, I think we’re too hard as a nation on ex-cons. But they’re not heroes because they went through self-imposed hardships (and almost always at the expense of someone innocent). And they’re certainly among the lower rungs of honesty by categorization. Nowhere near the top. If this sounds harsh, just act their victims.

America is so strange. On one hand, nearly everyone thinks the system doesn't work. And yet, they tacitly assume the justice system works. They think it works just like on TV - innocent until proven guilty, detail-oriented public defenders and judges, and scrupulously honest prosecutors and police. It's nothing like that. The justice system is a machine that chews people up, and spits out convicts, and it operates wi…

I agree with this. The justice system is fucked up. I’ve been arrested myself, so this isn’t some punitive viewpoint looking in from outside.

My point is that I don’t agree with labeling someone convicted of a crime as being among society’s most heroic or honest. That’s just a laughably ridiculous statement.

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Post by Terry_Roll »

omgsean wrote: post #120
hooande wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how large was the "pandemic bailout"? it looked like two checks from the govt and Was this enough to make a large number of people stop working, even now into mid-2022? I really feel like the impact of several thousand dollars would be gone after a year, at most. yet many businesses near me are still under staffed and having trouble hiring.

The idea that it's caused by "bailouts" is just a talking point. Personally I think it boils down to a few things: 1. Older people taking retirement early when the pandemic hit. 2. People in service/public-facing industries leaving for jobs that could be done remotely, or going back to school. 3. Several hundred thousand working age people dying from COVID.

4. People have woken up to the current form of slavery called Capitalism. For a start, if the Govt wanted people to succeed they would teach law at school and update the public with the latest case law and legislation every few months, but the fact is, that doesn't happen, ergo the righteous can inflict their sadism on the uneducated, just like religion is psychological warfare on the uneducated.

It all boils down to survival of the fittest and history repeatedly shows and the the US Govt & US Mil demonstrates, violence always wins the day.

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