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Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Here in the UK we're one day into a two day extra 'bank holiday' for the Queen's jubilee (70 years). Seems a good time to remind people of great sites like these, places that take the time to gather the evidence that reveals the truth behind royalty - descendants of thieves and murderers still profiting off the proceeds of their ancestral crimes, with their only 'qualification' being an accident of birth . We've neve…

We could get rid of the monarchy tomorrow and ordinary britons would notice zero change in our political and democratic freedoms. They are politically irrelevant, a few completely peripheral procedural and technical issues aside that make no real difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm not sure if that's an argument for or against keeping the monarchy to be honest. They're a historical vestigial appendage of th…

If I were prime minister I think having to have a private in-person chat with the monarch every week would probably have a profound impact on how I went about running the country on her behalf.

It's like a schoolchild having to explain themselves to the headmaster.

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> The Crown Estate Commissioners have done this under the terms of the Land Registration Act 2002, which allows the Crown to register an interest in otherwise unregistered land. This is wild to me. What do you mean "unregistered land" ? How the hell can you have been a nation for centuries and still have land that no-one owns? How can you be uncertain about who owns a piece of land? How can you have disputes? Every s…

Sweden is mapped that way because at some point they decided to do so, and any "unregistered land" became something - likely property of the Swedish government. The UK has a much more ... involved understanding of land, and since it only has to be registered when sold (IIRC) there are large plats of land where the owner is not registered (even though it may be known).

a quite fascinating quirk of UK land law is that squatters have a very impressive set of rights. If you squat on a piece of land for a long enough period of time without challenge, you can legally claim that land and take it into your ownership

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LOL. Great comment. But it's not just Scotland. The War of the Roses had some multiple inheritance problems, too.

> The War of the Roses had some multiple inheritance problems, too. They defined a custom method combinator that squashed the diamond problem. Implementing it was literally painful for many of the people involved. Truly a killer problem.

And then in 16.8.8 they imported a completely new package from the Netherlands called 'Orange' (but they rebranded it), and marked a bunch of things as 'protected' to lock down inheritance.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Sweden is mapped that way because at some point they decided to do so, and any "unregistered land" became something - likely property of the Swedish government. The UK has a much more ... involved understanding of land, and since it only has to be registered when sold (IIRC) there are large plats of land where the owner is not registered (even though it may be known).

a quite fascinating quirk of UK land law is that squatters have a very impressive set of rights. If you squat on a piece of land for a long enough period of time without challenge, you can legally claim that land and take it into your ownership

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Re: Who owns Parliament?

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> The Crown Estate Commissioners have done this under the terms of the Land Registration Act 2002, which allows the Crown to register an interest in otherwise unregistered land. This is wild to me. What do you mean "unregistered land" ? How the hell can you have been a nation for centuries and still have land that no-one owns? How can you be uncertain about who owns a piece of land? How can you have disputes? Every s…

Unregistered doesn't mean unowned. It just means that the land registry, an official government register of ownership, doesn't have an entry (yet). The registration system was created in 1925 to replace the previous system of tracing ownership through a decentralised system of dusty old documents, but land normally only gets registered when it's sold or if the owner decides to register it.

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Ah, the old "if you don't like it, leave" advice. Well, in life, you might come across some situations where running away isn't really an option. I've got an (American) wife who likes it here, and a kid whose schooling I don't want to interrupt. Yes. If it were just me, I'd leave. I've made enough millions that I could live quite happily back in my home country, but, you know... Life. Not just your own opinion counts…

So then maybe "society is in ruins because people are allowed to own things I don't think they should be allowed to own" is a bit hyperbolic, yes?

shrug you have your opinion, am I not entitled to my own ? And since when did not liking something mean you weren't entitled to criticise it ?

American society is screwed up, IMHO. A large part of that is due to the policy of fear used by authorities, due to guns, and another large part is due to the wide "independent" streak within the society - I put it in quotes because it's really just selfishness, and guns are the poster-child for that attitude.

shrug Nothing I say can matter, I can't even vote, but it doesn't mean I don't have eyes to see.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Sweden is mapped that way because at some point they decided to do so, and any "unregistered land" became something - likely property of the Swedish government. The UK has a much more ... involved understanding of land, and since it only has to be registered when sold (IIRC) there are large plats of land where the owner is not registered (even though it may be known).

a quite fascinating quirk of UK land law is that squatters have a very impressive set of rights. If you squat on a piece of land for a long enough period of time without challenge, you can legally claim that land and take it into your ownership

Double checked this and it's still correct, after a period of time a squatter can claim ownership if they can prove they've been living in the property.

They can also get fined and/or sent to prison.

Edit: it's also legal to squat in a non-residential building

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sweden is mapped that way because at some point they decided to do so, and any "unregistered land" became something - likely property of the Swedish government. The UK has a much more ... involved understanding of land, and since it only has to be registered when sold (IIRC) there are large plats of land where the owner is not registered (even though it may be known).

a quite fascinating quirk of UK land law is that squatters have a very impressive set of rights. If you squat on a piece of land for a long enough period of time without challenge, you can legally claim that land and take it into your ownership

That also exists in the US (because our common law is descended from the UK's) - adverse possession aka "possession is 9/10ths of the law".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

a quite fascinating quirk of UK land law is that squatters have a very impressive set of rights. If you squat on a piece of land for a long enough period of time without challenge, you can legally claim that land and take it into your ownership

That also exists in the US (because our common law is descended from the UK's) - adverse possession aka "possession is 9/10ths of the law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession

It exists in some US jurisdictions but even where it does, it's often been sharply curtailed. IIRC, in California adverse possession exists, but to benefit you must not only be openly possessing the property but also paying the property taxes on it in the period required to establish the claim.
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