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Angular v14 is now available

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Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by pjmlp »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

Yes, as Java/.NET shop, Angular is usually our first option for SPA applications, Vue second and then React third.

This when we just don't just use SSR + vanilaJS/WebAPIs.

Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by Karawebnetwork »

askonomm wrote: post #3
theodorejb wrote: post #2

Quoted post unavailable.

Because of the whole "master" meaning a slave owner thing that the progressive left seems to think it means and it apparently hurt enough feelings to make it a movement (default main branch on Github repos is now also "main" because of this), and then you have companies that desperately try to be hip and cool, and they do this to get social clout. The whole thing is pretty sad if you ask me, but what do I know.

This has nothing to do with left/right. This is a racial issue. People of color exist along the entire political spectrum.

Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by cjhowarddev »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

I used Angular at my last company. After having used react for many years and then experimenting with svelte, Angular (even the most modern versions) felt like it was always in my way.

Bi-directional data binding and the isolation between style, structure, and logic felt was less productive. Angular has some nice properties, like dependency injection built in, but you can circumvent many of those needs with a functional component tree in react (or limit the surface area across components). The simple fact that you need @Output event emitters to handle callbacks is a good example of how bloated it feels.

It may be that I don't know nearly enough about Angular but even after a year of doing my best to learn the idiomatic Angular ways I wasn't impressed.

Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by itslennysfault »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

Yeah, a bunch of companies use it. It is still the 2nd most popular frontend framework.

Off hand I know it's used heavily at: Google (duh), Microsoft, VMWare, Capitol One and Fidelity.

I used it at Microsoft though there is also a ton of React there. I worked on PowerBI which is/was entirely Angular. The rest I just know from going to NgConf and seeing those other companies recruiting there.

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Post by yesimahuman »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

Angular is very widely used in the enterprise, and I can confidently say that given we make most of our money at Ionic working directly with these enterprise teams. I think Angular has just found where it excels and that tends to be in larger companies.

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Post by luisgvv »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

The company I work on has a couple of projects built with Angular, however we are shifting to use React.

The reason being: no one around the company likes maintaining those projects because they hate the framework and we haven't been able to hire people willing to learn/work with Angular.

I love the framework as it has almost everything you need out of the box. At the beginning I hated it but as any tool/language once you get the architecture, patterns and ways to build stuff you feel it's a great tool.

Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by maxfurman »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

I've used it on a lot of client projects, my current one included. Angular's batteries-included approach makes it way faster to spin up a new app for a new project, and avoids the problem of picking the wrong dependency for (state/navigation/styling/etc.) that plagues React projects.

Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by Zetaphor »

rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

You're confusing your own experience for the reality of the market. My last three employers use Angular. My current employer just replaced an AngularJS app with a new Angular 11 app for a Fortune 100 client.

Go to a job listing site and you'll find just as many positions hiring for an Angular dev (often paired with C#/ASP) as you will React.

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Post by jmkni »

yesimahuman wrote: post #15
rychco wrote: post #6

I'm kind of amazed Angular is still around. I hadn't heard of it for what feels like years at this point & assumed it was already in the graveyard. My company tried using it back in 2017ish but it was a pain for us at the time. Other than Google's own services, does anyone have any examples or experiences using Angular nowadays?

Angular is very widely used in the enterprise, and I can confidently say that given we make most of our money at Ionic working directly with these enterprise teams. I think Angular has just found where it excels and that tends to be in larger companies.

I’m working with ionic at the moment on an Angular app, it’s brilliant

Re: Angular v14 is now available

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Post by [deleted] »

iueotnmunto wrote: post #9
askonomm wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because of the whole "master" meaning a slave owner thing that the progressive left seems to think it means and it apparently hurt enough feelings to make it a movement (default main branch on Github repos is now also "main" because of this), and then you have companies that desperately try to be hip and cool, and they do this to get social clout. The whole thing is pretty sad if you ask me, but what do I know.

It takes a few minutes to switch. Maybe a bit more to rebind all CI scripts etc in a project as large as react. There are some things that I don't fully get (slavery was never big in my country). It takes a few minutes of effort to not be an asshole (real or perceived), so I just do it rather than thinking to much about whether or not the wider population should be offended or not.

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