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Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Sounds like the system would be simpler if we removed root and gave capabilities to the sudoers instead. Edit: why does the disabled root account allocate so much RAM?

Can you do that without rebooting? Rebooting nations tends to be a messy affair. Just ask France.

Arguably every election that brings in a new government is a reboot. A revolution is more like wiping the drive and installing a new OS.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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We’re a constitutional monarchy AND a democracy. The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers

>The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers except, even with "disabled root account", you can do "sudo su" to get a root shell. What's the equivalent of that in uk?

Pretty much exactly that. The Government can (and does) request a Privy Council meeting, which issues various kinds of Orders in the name of the Queen. The Queen's Speech is another (less instrumental) way of government using the root account directly.

(Or, I suppose, you could `$ sudo su`and then `# instantiate_republic` to permanently promote the usual administrator account to root. Still not clear it's wise to directly govern from account 0, though).

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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Here in the UK we're one day into a two day extra 'bank holiday' for the Queen's jubilee (70 years). Seems a good time to remind people of great sites like these, places that take the time to gather the evidence that reveals the truth behind royalty - descendants of thieves and murderers still profiting off the proceeds of their ancestral crimes, with their only 'qualification' being an accident of birth . We've neve…

We could get rid of the monarchy tomorrow and ordinary britons would notice zero change in our political and democratic freedoms. They are politically irrelevant, a few completely peripheral procedural and technical issues aside that make no real difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm not sure if that's an argument for or against keeping the monarchy to be honest. They're a historical vestigial appendage of th…

If you got rid of the monarchy tomorrow you could bet your life that Tory government would be immediately selling of assets to buy voters.

There is little other reason to keep the monarchy, but that's enough.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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We’re a constitutional monarchy AND a democracy. The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers

Love this analogy. As a Canadian...we have the same monarch, but our own Constitution / elected officials. So...we are ourselves in the sudoers file...but surely we are different under this analogy than our UK brethren? What are we a VM with sudo root?

I'd see the governors has some kind kerberos authorized set of admin accounts. And we are the lowly users and sudoers.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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We’re a constitutional monarchy AND a democracy. The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers

Love this analogy. As a Canadian...we have the same monarch, but our own Constitution / elected officials. So...we are ourselves in the sudoers file...but surely we are different under this analogy than our UK brethren? What are we a VM with sudo root?

Something like that. And with the Governor General as the VM root.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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The root account was written when it was fashionable to be object-oriented, so its resource allocation is all due to inheritance. Scotland in particular is upset because of certain issues due to multiple inheritance.

LOL. Great comment. But it's not just Scotland. The War of the Roses had some multiple inheritance problems, too.

> The War of the Roses had some multiple inheritance problems, too.

They defined a custom method combinator that squashed the diamond problem. Implementing it was literally painful for many of the people involved. Truly a killer problem.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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We could always confiscate your property while we're at it. Every little helps. After all there can be few on this forum that aren't in the upper decile of wealth globally. Property is theft! (er, kidding in case that wasn't obvious)

The more pressing issue with land ownership in the UK is that we don't even know who owns large chunks of it.

American here. How is that a pressing issue?

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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We could get rid of the monarchy tomorrow and ordinary britons would notice zero change in our political and democratic freedoms. They are politically irrelevant, a few completely peripheral procedural and technical issues aside that make no real difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm not sure if that's an argument for or against keeping the monarchy to be honest. They're a historical vestigial appendage of th…

We don’t have a written constitution, so if you remove all the pomp and tradition it’s highly likely some things do actually go wrong as people forget they’re meant to happen.

The US constitution is a handful of pages, and only a few lines actually specify how the government should function on a day to day basis. If they forgot everything but the constitution and worked out everything else again from scratch, the result would likely be completely unrecognisable.

Furthermore there's an argument to be made that the UK system of government is considerably more modern that that of the US. After all, their system is essentially a direct copy of the UK system of the time, with a few minor tweaks. The house is parliament, the Senate is the House of Lords, and the President is an elected King George V. Signing laws is Royal Assent, dissolving the House is Prorogation, he can even pardon criminals. I say George V specifically because the powers of the crown have been massively reformed since, really from Queen Anne onwards, but the US system has remained frozen in time.

Re: Who owns Parliament?

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We’re a constitutional monarchy AND a democracy. The monarch is the disabled root account of the nation. The government is the sudoers

Sounds like the system would be simpler if we removed root and gave capabilities to the sudoers instead. Edit: why does the disabled root account allocate so much RAM?

President Boris. Sounds fantastic. Perhaps not though, yeah?
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