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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by nickysielicki » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

2143 wrote: post #585

nickysielicki wrote: post #579

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> For my hobbies there are still bulletin boards! Of course, Reddit's very useful as well. Find me a forum with 10k members and hundreds of active users that’s dedicated almost entirely to the North American use of the BMW M57. Because that’s the sort of thing Facebook has. You might think that you’re getting along fine without these forums but I promise you, if you’re not on the site you’re missing conversations.

Ah, happy to see a fellow car enthusiast :) Well, I'm not from North America. I'm from India. But I do know a forum here with 100k+ car enthusiasts: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-bhp-reviews/ In case you were wondering, 6 cylinder diesel BMWs are infact very popular in India. All powered by the N57 engine. Couldn't find too much with the older M57, but to be fair BMW sales really picked up in India only after t…

But there are all sorts of little secrets to these cars beyond a review. NABDOG (North American BMW Diesel Owners Group, on Facebook) has 3 independent mechanics between Michigan, Colorado, and Georgia that make a living just servicing members cars. We have guys 3D printing aftermarket air intakes and coolant plugs, and another guy who had connector caps injection molded. We have a big FAQ with all the information on what sort of oil TBNs and detergents are good for the engine. We have a list of common failures, like the fact that on the E70 the plastic rain trays at the bottom of the windshield have a poor design and will drip water down directly onto injector six if they crack, rusting it onto the head and potentially ruining the engine, or a tutorial on how to clean the sunroof drains. e90post/etc has some of this, but it’s not as good. NABDOG has a personality with its own memes and such, it genuinely feels like a community relative to a forum.

Probably the most useful part of NABDOG is that I can think of a question while I’m out in my garage, snap a picture and make a post, and have a handful of answers before I shut my hood. The real-time aspect of Facebook groups is underrated.

The other group that comes to mind is dedicated to disc golf in my city. People will post, “hey, I’m going solo to X course at 4:30, anyones welcome” and people will connect that way and become friends. I don’t think there’s a real replacement for these.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by Zanneth » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

romanhn wrote: post #260

atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

Having spent a couple of years at Facebook, I was honestly surprised by how different Zuckerberg is vs the outside perception. Now, I wasn't part of his inner circle or whatever, but in his weekly Q&As he came off very thoughtful, well-rounded, human, at times opinionated, and willing to engage on any topic. He fought to keep the weekly sessions going despite the leaks, something Google gave up on as I understand. Zu…

I had the same reaction after listening to his interview on Lex Fridman’s podcast. He actually seems like a humble and thoughtful person.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by s09dfhks » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 4:38 PM UTC

I keep hearing rumors she may be running to take over for Dianne Feinstein

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by tmp_anon_22 » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 4:42 PM UTC

mmaunder wrote: post #359

frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

Don’t confuse investor sobriety after an epic party with strategic miscalculation. Zuck is taking a gamble. Good for him. It’s extremely rare for a big co to have the balls and for leadership to have the autonomy to do this these days. He has both. He may fail. But at least he took a big hairy audacious risky shot at first to market and a chance at being what Steve Jobs is to smart phones. I wouldn’t count him out ju…

> big hairy audacious risky shot

Is it though? He'll be a billionaire the rest of his life. His grandchildren will be billionaires. What's the risk? Other then his employees jobs. The dozens of vendors that serve Facebook and their employees. The local businesses that depend on Facebook.

Why is greed so often mistaken for nobility?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by 2143 » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 5:11 PM UTC

nickysielicki wrote: post #591

2143 wrote: post #585

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, happy to see a fellow car enthusiast :) Well, I'm not from North America. I'm from India. But I do know a forum here with 100k+ car enthusiasts: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-bhp-reviews/ In case you were wondering, 6 cylinder diesel BMWs are infact very popular in India. All powered by the N57 engine. Couldn't find too much with the older M57, but to be fair BMW sales really picked up in India only after t…

But there are all sorts of little secrets to these cars beyond a review. NABDOG (North American BMW Diesel Owners Group, on Facebook) has 3 independent mechanics between Michigan, Colorado, and Georgia that make a living just servicing members cars. We have guys 3D printing aftermarket air intakes and coolant plugs, and another guy who had connector caps injection molded. We have a big FAQ with all the information on…

> all sorts of little secrets to these cars beyond a review.

Go deeper into the threads and you'll discover the secrets.

Since I neither drive a BMW nor live in USA to take advantage of the 3 independent mechanics between MI, CO, and GA, I suppose I'm not missing out on that :)

(Why'd you specially mention MI, CO, and GA?)

However, from your words I gather that NABDOG has plenty of useful information.

Hence, it's all the more important for them to have an independent website instead of living inside FB. Apart from being much more useful to a wider audience, at the very least, you'll still have the content when FB sinks ;)

> disc golf in my city

TIL that a sport called "disc golf" exists. Thanks. Like I mentioned in ancestor post, we both live in different universes.

Drive safe.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by nickysielicki » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 5:13 PM UTC

romanhn wrote: post #260

atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

Having spent a couple of years at Facebook, I was honestly surprised by how different Zuckerberg is vs the outside perception. Now, I wasn't part of his inner circle or whatever, but in his weekly Q&As he came off very thoughtful, well-rounded, human, at times opinionated, and willing to engage on any topic. He fought to keep the weekly sessions going despite the leaks, something Google gave up on as I understand. Zu…

I realized this was true when I saw the general reaction to the video of him holding an American flag on the 4th of July at sunset while wakeboarding.

https://youtu.be/8qPVhr2Gd1M

The reaction from most was to call him lame or approval hungry, but my thought was, “That is SO cool and badass and I have misunderstood this man completely.”

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by baby » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 5:31 PM UTC

colinmhayes wrote: post #590

baby wrote: post #581

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> Texting an iPhone user as an android user is legitimately a bad experience What are the issues? I never use text except for spams at this point, all discussions I have with friends are on whatsapp/messenger.

There are a lot. The biggest for me is that texts take around 10 seconds to send, so having long conversations isn't really practical.

Ah, I guess iMessage sends it directly right? I’m still confused as to why people wouldn’t switch to whatsapp instead. For example, if your connection sucks iMessage will fallback to text and if you’re abroad or talking to a foreign number then you’ll get charged, that sounds like a massive issue to me.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by spurgu » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 5:44 PM UTC

glofish wrote: post #420

nickysielicki wrote: post #400

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To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…

Each of these: Markeplace, Forums, Messenger are non sticky and with countless alternatives. For example one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people. I still use Craigslist, I think it works better and has better organization of categories. The main Facebook app, now that is a unique product - yet frankly, from my perspective it feels completely marginalized, the content there is in w…

Agreed.

Marketplace sucks compared to other alternatives out there (Craigslist has never been big in the European countries I've lived in so can't comment on that in particular).

Groups are a horrible alternative to forums. An algorithm decides which posts are "hot" and posts die over time. Forums can provide highly informative long-running threads (which FB groups and Reddit cannot). Sure, manually moderating a forum is hard work but the end result is so much better.

Messenger? There are so many better (and encrypted) alternatives to communication.

The only thing FB has going for it is that almost everyone is there. It's super easy to hook up with someone you just met the other day just by searching for them on FB, sending a friend requests and then you can be chatting within minutes. You don't even necessarily need to know their name, you can go through list of friends of a common friend and look for them by face. All other solutions practically involves having to remember asking someone for their phone number. This is also why marketplace/groups are "successful", due to the sheer number of people already on the platform.

As products they all pretty much suck.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by KaiserPro » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 6:00 PM UTC

swyx wrote: post #552

KaiserPro wrote: post #48

That does explain a few things. Sandberg has been exceptionally quiet in the last few months, and given that the succession underneath her has been horribly bungled, I suspect she's chosen this time to bugger off. I'm not sure what this means, but I hope Sandberg's style of disingenuous personal "brand" disappears with her. Just say what you mean and give us time back.

elaboration needed. what do you mean by succession under her has been bungled?

after Mark D'Arcy left, there was a large re-shuffle and the person with the most experience didn't get the job, and left. After that there has been a steady roll of dominoes.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by colinmhayes » Thu, Jun 02, 2022, 6:18 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #597

colinmhayes wrote: post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot. The biggest for me is that texts take around 10 seconds to send, so having long conversations isn't really practical.

Ah, I guess iMessage sends it directly right? I’m still confused as to why people wouldn’t switch to whatsapp instead. For example, if your connection sucks iMessage will fallback to text and if you’re abroad or talking to a foreign number then you’ll get charged, that sounds like a massive issue to me.

> I’m still confused as to why people wouldn’t switch to whatsapp instead.

Because all their friends use iMessage too. Switching isn't trivial when you have to convince your whole network tos witch with you.