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Each of these: Markeplace, Forums, Messenger are non sticky and with countless alternatives. For example one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people. I still use Craigslist, I think it works better and has better organization of categories. The main Facebook app, now that is a unique product - yet frankly, from my perspective it feels completely marginalized, the content there is in w…

Completely disagree. Those three things are all gated by intense network effects. Social media type products are generally as sticky as they come. Facebook will continue to be the platform that everyone uses, because who wants to be on a marketplace or messaging app that doesn't have the most people? > one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people I guess theoretically, but in reality,…

> Texting an iPhone user as an android user is legitimately a bad experience

What are the issues? I never use text except for spams at this point, all discussions I have with friends are on whatsapp/messenger.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Completely disagree. Those three things are all gated by intense network effects. Social media type products are generally as sticky as they come. Facebook will continue to be the platform that everyone uses, because who wants to be on a marketplace or messaging app that doesn't have the most people? > one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people I guess theoretically, but in reality,…

i don’t know. the past decade has been everyone shouting about network effects, yet i can’t count on either hand the number of matching-related apps i’ve both left and joined over that duration. on the other hand, i’m still using basically the same http networking protocol during that same duration. network effects are real (hence http still dominating), but the higher you crawl up the stack the “softer” the effect.

It’s harder to change things down the stack. I guess the more things are built on top of fb (like sign in w fb) the harder it’ll be to change it?

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Well, I strongly disagree. I would be shocked if VR/metaverse does not massively grow within the next 10 years. I think the headsets alone will continue to get massively better which will convert most of humanity, just like how much better iPhones got since the first one. In fact, I would bet anything on the foregoing, as I have near total confidence in that aspect. It’s much harder to figure out which companies will…

I am just curious as to what data suggests this is going to be a hugely popular thing. In my mind there are two examples of recent products that were on the same lines... Second Life and 3D TVs. Both were unsuccessful. I'm just not seeing where the insight comes from that this is something people will want on a huge scale. Even if you solve the current problems of the headsets being painful to wear over long periods.…

Second life was unsuccessful? In what metric?

I’ve tried 3D TV and VR headsets: I always thought that 3D TVs were a gimmick whereas VR is MINDBLOWING

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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I suspect Reacts adoption is more along the lines of "nobody ever gets fired for buying IBM" than because it was genuinely novel. The space of JS frameworks was very well explored by the time React was created. PyTorch is based on Caffe which was created by Yangqing Jia at UC Berkeley.

You're crazy, React's shadow DOM and approach were a step change at the time.

Elm had a virtual DOM before React even existed.

You can argue (and I'd agree) Facebook has talent for cherry-picking the best parts of innovative projects. But cherry-picking in and of itself doesn't constitute innovation.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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We probably live in different universes. I quit FB for good about 5 years ago. At that point it was all trash. > Marketplace was a huge success Whoa they have a marketplace?! Since when? > Small forums for various hobbies For my hobbies there are still bulletin boards! Of course, Reddit's very useful as well. It's likely that there's good conversations I'm missing out on because I'm not on FB, but I'm not aware of wh…

> For my hobbies there are still bulletin boards! Of course, Reddit's very useful as well. Find me a forum with 10k members and hundreds of active users that’s dedicated almost entirely to the North American use of the BMW M57. Because that’s the sort of thing Facebook has. You might think that you’re getting along fine without these forums but I promise you, if you’re not on the site you’re missing conversations.

Ah, happy to see a fellow car enthusiast :)

Well, I'm not from North America. I'm from India.

But I do know a forum here with 100k+ car enthusiasts:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/team-bhp-reviews/

In case you were wondering, 6 cylinder diesel BMWs are infact very popular in India. All powered by the N57 engine. Couldn't find too much with the older M57, but to be fair BMW sales really picked up in India only after the F10 5-series was launched at around 2010, and I'm not sure if they ever had the M57 engine.

Among car enthusiasts in India, the 530d is perhaps the most coveted sedans. (535d and 540d were never sold here. North America gets plenty of cool cars which aren't sold here).

Here are a couple of great reviews of the 525d and 530d with that engine on the aforementioned forum:

(530d) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/official-new-car-reviews/1074...

(525d) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/official-new-car-reviews/8261...

Other owner reviews that I could find:

(530d; I personally felt this was especially well written) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-term-ownership-reviews/1...

(530d) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-drives-initial-ownership...

(X3 30d) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-term-ownership-reviews/1...

(X3 30d) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-drives-initial-ownership...

(X3 30d) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-drives-initial-ownership...

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Yes, the cashier's check is fake. And they will never meet you at the originating bank. I've even had cashier's checks mailed to me from my Craigslist ads. Called the originating banks and they verified over the phone that the checks were fake. When I sell something on Craigslist, it's cash-only and they have to meet me at a public place and pick up the item in person. And I verify the bills are not counterfeit befor…

Our local police station has a parking lot next to it with a big sign that says “online purchase transaction point” or something to that effect. There are cameras monitoring the lot. Just suggesting meeting at said location is usually sufficient to clear out the scammers.

That's fantastic. I've never heard of that.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…

To play devil’s advocate to the devil’s advocate: I’m not on Facebook for anything. Been this way for so many years I can’t remember when I had an account. It feels like I’m missing exactly nothing. Spent some time recently going out of my way to see people in person. To me, it feels like that’s where it’s at: IRL.

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Why would any reputable person be dealing with a cashier’s cheque in this century?

Earlier in this century they were often required when signing an apartment lease in the NYC metro area.

I had to get one literally yesterday for my security deposit on a new apartment. This is in SF Bay Area.

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To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…

> The quality of posts On Marketplace?! This blows my mind that you think this. It's a chaotic nightmare. Sellers post everything as free and then separately negotiate a price. Buyers repeatedly ask you if something's still available. Both of these mean something's very wrong with how people understand to use the system.

I think they are dealing with the inherited culture of Craigslist. Craigslist was such a clusterfuck for so many years, and had such a monopoly, that it has essentially defined what it is to do individual-to-individual noncommercial online commerce. The low balling and the attitude of some posters stems from there, because everyone thinks “that’s just how you are supposed to act when you sell something online.”

For every seller doing things the old way, there’s a handful of people doing things the cordial and respectful way, putting an effort into it. It’s getting better. You do have to learn how to read the page, but I don’t see how they could fix that.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Completely disagree. Those three things are all gated by intense network effects. Social media type products are generally as sticky as they come. Facebook will continue to be the platform that everyone uses, because who wants to be on a marketplace or messaging app that doesn't have the most people? > one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people I guess theoretically, but in reality,…

> Texting an iPhone user as an android user is legitimately a bad experience What are the issues? I never use text except for spams at this point, all discussions I have with friends are on whatsapp/messenger.

There are a lot. The biggest for me is that texts take around 10 seconds to send, so having long conversations isn't really practical.
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