Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
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Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
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Not just caste discrimination, but also sexism. I have worked at least three companies where if there were Indian women, the vast majority were in QA.
I am a Director-Level in Engineering/QA/Quality Engineering. I currently lead a team where our ratio of Female Indian women is higher than any other engineering group at the company. Every Quality Engineering team I have been apart of has had a higher ratio of females, but not necessarily of any specific background. My N=1 experience is that this can be related, but not always directly about discrimination or sexism.…
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Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#283A good read for some additional context on caste discrimination in the American tech industry: https://www.wired.com/story/trapped-in-silicon-valleys-hidde...
Not just caste discrimination, but also sexism. I have worked at least three companies where if there were Indian women, the vast majority were in QA.
Yeah I worked at vmw and they have a huge caste/sexism problem. Funny how liberal Americans stand by and let it happen
Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#284A good read for some additional context on caste discrimination in the American tech industry: https://www.wired.com/story/trapped-in-silicon-valleys-hidde...
Not just caste discrimination, but also sexism. I have worked at least three companies where if there were Indian women, the vast majority were in QA.
Correct. Until I read feminist theory, QA is relatively easy job, good pay and anyway I hate coding. After I read, its deep rooted institutional bias against women to not be allowed to work in high paying, high prestige software development jobs.
Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
There seem to be more women in QA in general. Genuinely asking: Is this also sexism?
> Genuinely asking: Is this also sexism? One way to look at it is that the disparity may be a symptom of complicated cultural biases, and we may not know the specific reasons. Since there’s nothing gender or sex related to doing the job of QA, then if the disparity actually is measurable and widespread, it does reveal cultural bias. This is currently true for nurses and for elementary school teachers in the US, for e…
> Since there’s nothing gender or sex related to doing the job of QA,
How do you know this to be true?
> cultural bias
What definition are you using for this term?
Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
There seem to be more women in QA in general. Genuinely asking: Is this also sexism?
> Genuinely asking: Is this also sexism? One way to look at it is that the disparity may be a symptom of complicated cultural biases, and we may not know the specific reasons. Since there’s nothing gender or sex related to doing the job of QA, then if the disparity actually is measurable and widespread, it does reveal cultural bias. This is currently true for nurses and for elementary school teachers in the US, for e…
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Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#287The talk should have allowed to go through. The post I think said it right, people wanted to shut it down and the only way to do it is to discredit the speaker because they know there is truth to the arguments. However we should step back and think about how important it in the American context. What purpose is that talk going to serve? I don’t know if it does anything other than satisfying esoteric learning needs of…
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Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#288Question from a layman. How does one know that someone is from another caste? If I was someone from India, how would I know what caste my fellow Indian is from? Is there some kind of code? Or where you are from?
We go around wearing a label saying I'm so and so; born in so-and-so caste; respect my authority.
Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
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Except racism (and "caste-based discrimination" is also racism) shouldn't be considered "politics", everybody should be able to agree that it doesn't have a place in a modern company.
Having public messaging about negative social behavior often results in more of the negative behavior. Studies suggest lots of media about school shootings results in more school shootings. Similarly, messaging about getting help to reduce self-harm results in more self-harm. DARE resulted in no reductions in drug use. If the people creating these programs/talks don't understand this, they don't deserve the platform.…
So the problem shouldn't be discussed? So for security vulnerabilities, disclosing them allows them to be exploited. So 0-days and their corresponding patches shouldn't be discussed or released?
Re: Google cancelled a talk on caste bias
#290A good read for some additional context on caste discrimination in the American tech industry: https://www.wired.com/story/trapped-in-silicon-valleys-hidde...
Not just caste discrimination, but also sexism. I have worked at least three companies where if there were Indian women, the vast majority were in QA.
I worked at two companies where the engineering base is about 90% male yet over half our managers were female.
I also think it's counterintuitive to fixate on this stuff. It doesn't have to be sexism- it could be a fluke.