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1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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Newcomers started doing this on twitter for a while and turn social media from platform ads to federation ads network .. it's getting worse, like everybody is literally selling to each other. Remember old "long time no see" friends shown up trying to sell you something? Aghh now everyone pretends to be friend and sell you something.

The key to enjoying Twitter is to unfollow anyone who is clearly only Tweeting engagement and follow bait all day. It’s easy to spot. They all seem to follow the same pattern du jour, such as posting threads that feel like mad libs (“I talked to people who are passionate about . What I learned was surprising! Here are the top five takeaways. 1/6” is popular right now)

You forgot to drench it in finger pointing up and high five emojis

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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I have been called old for using acquaintance a twice. Which feels really weird to me, as I am not that old. ('97) I'd say I have about 3 friends at MOST, altough, more like 1 that I consider to truly be a friend. And I agree, friend is completely misused. On steam, friend means someone you want to be able to contact. On discord its someone you trust (more than regular people) or one you allow to contact you at all (…

97 what the fuck Ah wait its 2022 :(

I probably shouldve written it out. The "'" is kinda hard to see, now that I am looking at it again.

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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What the article is describing isn't "fans" as much as plain old "customers". Almost all the examples given in the article are people doing courses. If you sell a course for $1000, then the person buying it isn't a "fan" who just gives you money, the buyer is just a customer who buys a service.

The only thing new about this is that it's happening online; offering courses for $1000 is not exactly a new thing, it's a business that has existed for ever.

And I'm pretty sure that most of these customers aren't long-time fans. People will pay for access to a course, but they aren't going to take the course over and over again.

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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97 what the fuck Ah wait its 2022 :(

I probably shouldve written it out. The "'" is kinda hard to see, now that I am looking at it again.

No I was more surprised that people from 97 are in fact walking and talking adult humans. Time flies.

I've got to stop sleeping in Foreverware..

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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That's encouraging if you think of it as a funnel optimization problem. What can I do for the $100 per year set? T shirts or other swag? Signed merch? What can I do for the $10 per year set? Stickers?

Surprisingly we don't have a ton of creators offering swag stuff, I'd have assumed that it would have been a bigger draw (Some of that might have to do with us not really offering any support on our platform, but it's not a common request either). If there's a "product" to sell, it's usually either the content itself, or access through things like community. But like I said in another comment, how much people spend i…

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Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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Yeah, in an ideal world content creators could make an entire salary off of donations and offering simple perks and exclusive access. But actually this is a terrible career advice and relatively few people actually end up making anywhere close to $100k on Twitch or Patreon.

For each example the author mentions there are 100s if not 1,000s more who are wasting their time. We just aren’t a society where most people donate thousands or even hundreds of dollars out of altruism or for “exclusive access” except in a few niche scenarios.

I personally subscribe to a few content creators on Patreon. These people are very talented and have die-hard fans, because frankly their work is seriously exceptional and unique, and they make money. But not $1000 or even $100 per person, more like $1000 a month in total. The average subscriber donates ~$5 per month.

That’s not to say you shouldn’t do Patreon, in fact I think Patreon is a great tool to give you a) motivation, b) feedback, and c) a decent supplement to your income which is at least part of what you deserve for your work. But don’t think you can quit your job and do Patreon full time, that won’t happen unless you’re especially lucky or successful, and it takes years of work. And don’t think doing Patreon full time is any easier than a full-time job either.

Not to mention, the audience who donates is often very different than your main audience, who are very different than the creator himself/herself. Often what gets the most money isn’t what the most people want: case in point, mobile games, or at least mobile-style AAA games. And, often what gets the most views (and thus ad revenue) isn’t what the creator likes to create: case in point, clickbait videos and the “kid-ification” of popular YouTube channels.

Work on your passion, but don’t expect to work full-time on it.

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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post #64

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I probably shouldve written it out. The "'" is kinda hard to see, now that I am looking at it again.

No I was more surprised that people from 97 are in fact walking and talking adult humans. Time flies. I've got to stop sleeping in Foreverware..

The Internet turns everyone over 20 into Rip Van Winkle.

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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Yeah, in an ideal world content creators could make an entire salary off of donations and offering simple perks and exclusive access. But actually this is a terrible career advice and relatively few people actually end up making anywhere close to $100k on Twitch or Patreon. For each example the author mentions there are 100s if not 1,000s more who are wasting their time. We just aren’t a society where most people don…

Cum Town makes close to 100k per month on Patreon. Proof that you can make a lot of money by just fucking around.

Re: 1k True Fans? Try 100 (2020)

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Yeah, in an ideal world content creators could make an entire salary off of donations and offering simple perks and exclusive access. But actually this is a terrible career advice and relatively few people actually end up making anywhere close to $100k on Twitch or Patreon. For each example the author mentions there are 100s if not 1,000s more who are wasting their time. We just aren’t a society where most people don…

Your second to last paragraph rings true for me.

I follow some folks on YouTube for a variety of topics, they're highly skilled, give great advice / technical information (everything from games to coding) and are very professional / great speakers and presenters.

They get noticeably few donations compared to folks who emphasize acting out and a sort of wonky infotainment (where the information is sometimes dead wrong).

It's a bit disheartening.

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