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Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by my69thaccount »

schrep wrote: post #313
atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

I’ve worked directly for Mark and closely with Sheryl for nearly 14 years and this is very accurate.

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by AlexandrB »

nine_k wrote: post #206
frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

> they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. It's fun to see people demanding more moderation and berating excessive moderation in FB, regularly, on this very forum.

I'm guilty of both. I want looser enforcement of IP laws and better/more moderation of genuine harassment. Unfortunately economic incentives generally point in the opposite direction.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by vasco »

zmmmmm wrote: post #378
nickdothutton wrote: post #116

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Augmented reality will beat virtual reality.

Not exactly .... what will really happen is the distinction will go away. All the next gen VR headsets are building in color passthrough so that they effectively operate as AR devices - but better ones in some ways because they can actually replace reality fully when they want to, not be constrained to just tweaking it.

Unfortunately you'll still bump against a table.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by trhway »

lumost wrote: post #436
glofish wrote: post #420

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Each of these: Markeplace, Forums, Messenger are non sticky and with countless alternatives. For example one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people. I still use Craigslist, I think it works better and has better organization of categories. The main Facebook app, now that is a unique product - yet frankly, from my perspective it feels completely marginalized, the content there is in w…

The degree to which the main FB product rotted during the last few years was extreme. Scrolling FB was still a daily activity for me until the medium was overtaken by outrage. It seems like FB goosed conflict on the platform until everyone decided they’d had enough and left or stopped posting. There is nothing in the newsfeed from my contacts at this point, the feed is either entirely ads or bottom barrel MLM scams.…

>Scrolling FB was still a daily activity for me until the medium was overtaken by outrage.

i wonder if FB as result of all its A/B testing and engagement maximization has built a "faster horse".

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Post by seanhunter »

madrox wrote: post #220
haunter wrote: post #118

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>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…

Silicon Valley is great at rebranding things that already exist. Everyone talking a big game about the metaverse never played an MMO.

Exactly this. I read a great quote from Gabe Newell talking to PC Gamer[1]:

"Most of the people who are talking about metaverse have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. And they've apparently never played an MMO. They're like, 'Oh, you'll have this customizable avatar.' And it's like, well... go into La Noscea in Final Fantasy 14 and tell me that this isn't a solved problem from a decade ago, not some fabulous thing that you're, you know, inventing."

[1] https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-metaverse/

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by piva00 »

bradlys wrote: post #485
piva00 wrote: post #201

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So an outstanding job just requires business to flourish, doesn't matter the means? I really don't agree with that.

In a capitalistic system - yes. She’s won and there’s fuckall you can do about it. If you wanna play by a different set of rules - gotta change the entire landscape. No one is going to do that.

It's just sad that people spout this as an absolute unchangeable truth. She's won financially, completely lost morally and ethically. As a human she's a failure, as a capitalist she's a winner.

Yes, it is the system, does not mean I will call that an outstanding job because we focus on one metric: profit/making money. It's pretty stupid to reduce existence to these terms because of an economical system.

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Post by refurb »

majewsky wrote: post #255
nine_k wrote: post #206

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> they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. It's fun to see people demanding more moderation and berating excessive moderation in FB, regularly, on this very forum.

Despite what is often implied, there are in fact multiple people with different opinions posting on this site.

Sure, but if you look at the general HN sentiment, it's true.

One topic about "disinformation" get highly voted up and that "moderation is the only way to go".

Then another thread about Facebook moderation and suddenly the same people say "It's so terrible that Facebook is moderating so heavily".

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Post by seanhunter »

thewebcount wrote: post #300
elorant wrote: post #254

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The difference is that you play with your whole body, not just your fingers. You can duck for cover, or run, or kick and punch someone, or construct an item with your hands. It’s immersive and it could take gaming to a whole other level. This is what AR and games are all about. Not necessarily what Meta wants to build.

How's that going to work in my living room where there's an ottoman, a coffee table, the dog's running around, etc. Or do I need to build a new room just for AR/VR stuff? I mean, yeah you can do some interesting stuff like having virtual Jenga on your coffee table, or whatever, but thinking in terms of HalfLife 4, or even sitting around chatting with 3 other friends who are in different locations, it sounds like it w…

The level of magical thinking and SV delusion around the practical downsides of this reminds me of what Steve Jobs apparently said about the Segway "If enough people see the machine you won't have to convince them to architect cities around it. It'll just happen."[1]

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20010617162321/http://www.inside...

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by randomsearch »

lalos wrote: post #127

Sandberg coming back as CEO when Zuck takes a break from leading the VR effort will be textbook Board of Directors.

Makes sense. It’s a no brainer for her. If things go bad, she comes back to try to turn it around. If things go _really_ bad, she’s safe.

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Post by alpha_squared »

whack wrote: post #525
glofish wrote: post #467

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Isn't every terrible business decision a gamble that "could have paid off" if one thing or another happened? Being wrongly infatuated with a concept as Meta seems with metaverse is not a gamble IMHO. It seem more like a stupid decision done by someone that became successful by being in the right place at the right time. And now they want to prove that it wasn't an accident and that they have it takes to repeat hence…

> It seem more like a stupid decision done by someone that became successful by being in the right place at the right time This is massively underselling what led to Facebook's success. As someone who started using Facebook-alternatives in 2001, there were a ton of competing social networks at the time. Many very superficially similar to Facebook, and many with a multi-year headstart. FB drove them all to extinction…

I think a combination of the tight control over design/aesthetic (no customization) and the exclusivity was extremely alluring and created the first wave of adoption that just cascaded. I think timing really was a massive deal at that point. Clubhouse attempted to do this recently, and had the same massive wave of initial success, but struggles to maintain that growth because the product itself isn't very interesting.
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