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Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Post by divmain »

dmix wrote: post #27
kbd wrote: post #21

I was going to say that unfortunately Vimium, Dark Reader, and 1Password support are non-negotiable, but the browser evidently has its own built-in dark mode, and they claim to support both Chrome and Firefox extensions as well? I'm happy to provide non-Chromium traffic from either Firefox or something else; I'm increasingly running into things (often corporatey things) that only work in Chrome. It also sounds like t…

I just tried installing Vimium and it works well. Same with uBlock origin and Bitwarden. Orion warns that the support for web extensions is experimental. But this so far I love the idea of this browser.

This is great to hear! I tried Orion for awhile and Bitwarden was really flaky. I'll have to give it another go.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Post by CamelRocketFish »

smcleod wrote: post #15
elktea wrote: post #13

I enjoy Kagi, results are great. I hope the pricing comes down a little in future. edit: just paid, it came to about $15AUD after bank conversion fees which is about the price of a streaming service here.

Yeah I like Kagi but $15AUD is a bit steep for a subscription (for any software / SaaS), I think $10AUD would make more sense here. Still, it's a great product.

Even a gym membership?

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Post by freediver »

erklik wrote: post #24

I am not sure if it's been answered somewhere before. Why Webkit? Seems like a bad idea to use an engine that is currently running the "new IE"

I understand how that may feel. Orion founder here. Here was the thought process behind the choice.

When you decide to build a browser you first need to decide the browser engine.

We decided we don't want Chromium (because who needs another Chromium browser) so that left Gecko and WebKit.

Since I happen to personally use macOS and thought it had wonderful future as a consumer OS (this is all happening in 2018) I decided we should go with macOS and picked WebKit because it is native on macOS while Gecko isn't. It is all the fastest web rendering engine, with the best energy consumption and very robust privacy practices. All good base for a fast, zero telemetry browser.

Also Safari left a lot to be desired (my previous browser of choice) so since we are building a browser from scratch, why not build something that works great on Macs/iPhones first and then we will think about other platforms when we get there.

That is pretty uch the whole story.

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Post by Anunayj »

zamadatix wrote: post #14
Anunayj wrote: post #12

Awesome, I've been using kagi for a couple months now, and it's been awesome! I love thee ability to open internet archive quickly or bump the ranking of certain sites. I am still a little confused about the pricing situation though. As I understand you guys plan to offer "free with limited usage" and a paid 10$/month unlimited use plan. But I can't seem to find any information on what the "limits" are? I do not have…

Free plan is limited to 50 searches per month and 80 searches costs them about $1. https://kagi.com/pricing You can also see your actual usage cost at https://kagi.com/settings?p=consumption As for the incognito side I'm not convinced it's any less connected than switching to Incognito and searching with your normal search provider. Yeah, the sign in info is explicitly sent but it's not like Google et al don't know i…

gosh 1$/80 searches is somewhat expensive... are these pure infrastructure costs or does this include development costs which I hope would scale down as the search engine grows?

Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

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Post by smcleod »

CamelRocketFish wrote: post #34
smcleod wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I like Kagi but $15AUD is a bit steep for a subscription (for any software / SaaS), I think $10AUD would make more sense here. Still, it's a great product.

Even a gym membership?

Fair point, updated my comment :)
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