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So, Second Life?
but for normal people
If by "normal" you mean corporate chatbots everywhere.
Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO
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>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…
> I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. I think it's ads.
You made me snort beer out of my nose.
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#433"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.
If you listen to Lex Friedman, he said the thing that surprised him the most about mark zuckerberg when he met him was his overwhelming humanity and compassion. He said that part of him never comes through the media, but when he interacted with him he said it was undeniable how humane and compassionate he was.
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On a 3 month chart FB is down 10% from start to now. That's hardly "epic". And the NASDAQ composite is down 13% in the same time frame.
-44% ytd lol why write something in bad faith?
Why assume bad faith?
You said "past few months" and so I quickly pulled up a 3 month history which is a dropdown option in the UI I was looking at. I replied with what I saw.
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#435I suspect she may be also positioning herself for a possible run at US President, if Biden retires in 2024 and Kamala Harris doesn't work out. She came to Facebook from DC, and now may be aiming to return there.
She was positioning herself that way years ago, with the book and lots of press etc, before it became widely accepted that Facebook was a pestilence upon the world on her watch. I think that ship has sailed.
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To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…
Each of these: Markeplace, Forums, Messenger are non sticky and with countless alternatives. For example one could easily have two-three chat apps and use each with different people. I still use Craigslist, I think it works better and has better organization of categories. The main Facebook app, now that is a unique product - yet frankly, from my perspective it feels completely marginalized, the content there is in w…
The degree to which the main FB product rotted during the last few years was extreme. Scrolling FB was still a daily activity for me until the medium was overtaken by outrage.
It seems like FB goosed conflict on the platform until everyone decided they’d had enough and left or stopped posting. There is nothing in the newsfeed from my contacts at this point, the feed is either entirely ads or bottom barrel MLM scams. Instagram is going the same direction with everyone growing exhausted from competition for likes. TikTok seems successful in part because the primary purpose isn't to engage with your friends.
So where does that leave social networking amongst your peers? SMS seems to be making a comeback.
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I've used both and Horizon Worlds' lack of development is mind-boggling. It's positioned as the crown jewel of the Metaverse, the core from which Facebook will build the rest of the concept, and yet it's so barebones it's like no one is even working on it. VRChat has completely user-made avatars. To support this, they have a robust content moderation system with a fair amount of user control, and bounded performance…
> world's largest social media company lagging behind a random startup This seems to be a really common recurring theme in the tech industry and particularly the games industry, and I wish I understood why Just look at Minecraft, Valheim, any of the recent Pokemon games... A single person or a skeleton crew can somehow always seem to outproduce gigantic companies full of engineers and artists on the same level as the…
I have to imagine that this is just because you cannot pay someone to be to truly passionate about what they are doing.
And the VRChat devs actually play their own game, I find it highly unlikely that you could even remotely say the same about Horizon's devs.
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>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…
As far as I can tell from the material Meta has released, they have an incredibly ambitious vision for the metaverse. Essentially, I believe they want to create glasses that you wear, that allow you to see other people in your space, wherever they are. So you could have a conversation with three friends in your living room, as if they were there, while they could be on different continents, making physical location i…
This all sounds great... If it worked. VR has been around since the 90s with impressive demos which fail to captivate audiences for one reason or another.
In terms of tangible results, Meta may as well have pivoted to autonomous vehicles. The only way this pivot makes sense would be if they had actually delivered a headset people wanted.
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To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…
> The quality of posts On Marketplace?! This blows my mind that you think this. It's a chaotic nightmare. Sellers post everything as free and then separately negotiate a price. Buyers repeatedly ask you if something's still available. Both of these mean something's very wrong with how people understand to use the system.
Also, how does a buyer including the text "money order" not trigger automatic fraud enforcement?
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#440I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…
To play devils advocate, Facebook is more essential to my life than it ever was before. * Marketplace was a huge success in terms of subsuming Craigslist. The quality of posts and the volume of postings makes me rarely even check Craigslist anymore. * Small forums for various hobbies are almost entirely driven by Facebook groups now, instead of in the past where you’d find some custom bulletin board where the last po…
Opposite experience for me. I barely know anyone who uses FB marketplace, FB groups, or messenger. The only use case for Messenger is keeping in touch with "old people" who used it with me 10-15 years ago. That's like 2-3 people who are left and haven't moved off yet
In my experience, the FB ecosystem, other than Instagram and WhatsApp, is totally irrelevant to the younger generation.
If FB didn't own Instagram and WhatsApp I think it'd be dying in the next few years. These acquisitions are IMO what's keeping it relevant.