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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

I have zero faith in FB being able to deliver on the metaverse and more importantly, on hardware. They bought their way into VR and we still don't know if they will screw it up just as badly as they have every other hardware product they've attempted.

Google is king of web, iffy on software, and decent on hardware (when they commit).

Apple is king of hardware/software and sucks on web (it's really embarrassing at this point, I want to pull my hair out when I use almost any of their web-based tools, consumer or developer focused)

FB is decent on social for now but they haven't innovated in forever, they just buy up things like IG/WhatsApp/Oculus , I'm not convinced they are capable of producing anything interesting internally.

Maybe my comment will age badly but I'm not at all worried about FB "owning" the metaverse or anything like that, they have a terrible track record.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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I 100% believe in VR/XR/AR just not one driven by Meta. Edit: To be clear, IMO most disruptive technologies are not driven by established mega-corporations.

Gmail? iPhone? Facebook Mobile? (And earlier, Bell/IBM/Oracle)

what is Facebook Mobile and how was it disruptive?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I 100% believe in VR/XR/AR just not one driven by Meta. Edit: To be clear, IMO most disruptive technologies are not driven by established mega-corporations.

Gmail? iPhone? Facebook Mobile? (And earlier, Bell/IBM/Oracle)

Trying to make my point or just confused. Not really sure how to read that.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

Facebook was always doomed for failure, just like every social platform that came before it. The pivot should've happened years ago with a focus on Instagram and content creation (their shot at streaming was at least in the right direction). At this point, Facebook has simply waited entirely too long, and the likelihood of any pivot working for a company of their size is basically nonexistent.

The future of FB/Meta is WhatsApp.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

It's the thirty year anniversary of the Newton, a complete failure as a product. When it failed people said that people would never carry around computers, there was no need. They were bulky, a huge hassle and didn't do anything better than paper. All of this was true. Yet I don't think it is a coincidence that the iPhone came from the same company. I don't like Facebook as a product. But I like that Meta is trying t…

Yes but FB has never created a successful hardware product, that was not the case for Apple when it made (and failed) with the Newton.

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>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…

WoW but more boring and with more microtransactions.

Second Life but with hardware requirements with less general-purpose utility.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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In the 90s, the internet was very much being used. It was so exciting that my friends and I sat waiting for 20-30 seconds to see content. We exchanged messages, played each other on Comamand and Conquer, looked at edgy content on forums. Now, my Oculus headset sits gathering dust in a cupboard. Nobody I know wants it because it's so boring using it for more than half an hour.

I agree with you, but my 9 year old uses our Oculus more than her tablet. She plays games with her friends from school mostly, but also watches movies on Netflix, etc. I don't get it, but maybe I don't have to.

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Sandberg coming back as CEO when Zuck takes a break from leading the VR effort will be textbook Board of Directors.

This is the best comment so far. From my very limited knowledge though its almost impossible to remove Zuck from the company though.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

The real pivot for FB was their pivot to Instagram, with facebook.com pivoting to a "secret police" business model and shutting down open discussions, which used to flourish there. They've done this very well. FB today is more of a political organization than a business organization especially in the US. The Metaverse is just a distraction from this development that will have no impact on their cash cow Instagram.

The nice thing about Instagram and Twitter, as far as Washington lobbyists are concerned, is that it's influencer driven and there's very little room for bottom up discussion between "normal" people. The original Facebook was a tool where dissent could grow in a bottom up fashion, with friends posting and realizing, "holy smokes! I was thinking that too!". This doesn't happen any more now that everyone knows that big brother is watching.

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