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Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by TheEternalKim »

i67vw3 wrote: post #178
fbrchps wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never "own" a domain. You just rent it from a registrar, who had permission from ICANN to let you rent it. There is no "good" that you can take with you when you give a registrar money for a domain.

The only way to 'solve' this problem is to be an ICANN accredited registrar by yourself as an individual on an individual basis. Edit:- Then the problem comes from registry. So, along with being a registrar, that individual will need to become a registry recognized by ICANN

Another way to solve it is by switching to a bloclchain based registry like IPFS or nameCoin.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by travoltaj »

5ESS wrote: post #123
travoltaj wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would've 100% sued and paid for PR releases if they deleted a domain name I owned. I'm sure I could make decent money off punitive damages based off the email they sent, and these headlines would be pretty catchy - "Tech giant siezed and deleted a customers domain name." "Using Cloudflare can destroy your business overnight. This is how" "Own a domain name? Your registrar can delete it without any recourse." "Cloud…

I implore you to consider alerting media outlets about Cloudflares abusive actions anyway. More needs to be down to expose CloudFlare’s abusive actions. They can’t keep getting away with this.

I don't wanna spend money or effort on it since I wasn't involved.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by maccolgan »

naet wrote: post #35

There is an explanation of what is going on; it might be incomplete, but your account has in some way been flagged for fraud or spam. Maybe someone else is abusing your account, or maybe you have a miss configuration causing this to trigger, but I'd reach out to a service rep. -- I've experienced a near opposite situation: there was a news story about cloudflare providing ddos protection for a number of websites incl…

Banning sites based on politics is just as bad, don't be fooled.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by ehvatum »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #83

FWIW I also had a recent experience with Cloudflare "Trust & Safety" and it was my first negative Cloudflare experience, unfortunately. A client-of-a-client had their site reported to CF for malware distribution via Netcraft. I reviewed the site and found nothing unsual-looking. I dug out a month's worth of access logs for the site, carefully filtered them, and then eyeballed all of the tens of thousands of remaining…

Huge thanks for taking the time to post this. I am working with clients who are disrupting Chinese imports for things more easily made here, and the number one concern is bad actors using any easily available digital means to interrupt operations. DO sounds like the way to go.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by anaganisk »

bravetraveler wrote: post #126

Not here, but I'd by lying if I said I didn't worry about it. I've had a small collection of domains with them for eons - probably nearing a decade or longer

How? Cloudflare registrar is not decade old.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by anfogoat »

account42 wrote: post #185
anfogoat wrote: post #160

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> Unfortunately, unlike other things I cannot self-host a registrar Use .fi domains and you absolutely can. You really don't even need to code, run or host anything either unless you wanted to. Probably goes for some other lesser known ccTLDs too I'd assume.

Can you provide some details on what that process looks like? I assume you are actually talking about dealing with the registry directly and not just about self-hosting the nameservers the domain points to?

To become a registrar, you need to register with Traficom (the Finnish Transport and Communications Agency). They've got a section on their website devoted to domains[0] and another for registrars specifically[1]. The important bits are the Registrar's Guide[2] and the registration form[3].

Register as a private individual and leave the field where they ask if you want your contact info listed for consumers unchecked. Then, once they process the application and you're a registrar, never register domains for anyone but yourself.

The bit about not needing to host or code anything was a reference to the fact that Traficom maintains a registrar web interface[4]. If you're a low volume registrar, which you should be since you're a registrar for yourself, the web interface is all you need.

Now, couple of things I'm uncertain about: whether or not the registration process involves fees for non-citizens, and which payment methods they support besides SEPA transfers.

[0]: https://www.traficom.fi/en/communications/fi-domains

[1]: https://www.traficom.fi/en/communications/fi-domains/domain-...

[2]: https://www.traficom.fi/sites/default/files/media/file/regis...

[3]: https://www.traficom.fi/en/services/registration-registrar

[4]: https://registry.domain.fi/s/

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by e40 »

throwawayforcf wrote: post #138
thaumaturgy wrote: post #83

FWIW I also had a recent experience with Cloudflare "Trust & Safety" and it was my first negative Cloudflare experience, unfortunately. A client-of-a-client had their site reported to CF for malware distribution via Netcraft. I reviewed the site and found nothing unsual-looking. I dug out a month's worth of access logs for the site, carefully filtered them, and then eyeballed all of the tens of thousands of remaining…

My only interaction with cloudflare's "Trust and Safety" team involved reporting a site using their services, and that site hosted a large archive of child pornography [1], for which I provided a sizable chunk of evidence, which would have let them easily verify my claim. All I got back was a canned response that cloudflare is not actually hosting anything and cannot do anything and will forward my complaint to the I…

If they didn't give a crap about CP, what the heck did they think OP did?

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by antifa »

temp8964 wrote: post #108
Nextgrid wrote: post #89

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> What is the alternative though? > The web has turned in to this massive mess where most of us don't have the ability to do anything without having to rely on some ban happy mega corp. That's absolutely not true. You're drinking the HN/startup koolaid if you think everything should be on CloudFlare/AWS/Google/Microsoft/etc and there's no other way. Obviously VCs would love for you to think that but it doesn't make i…

Agree your point. But I think Microsoft doesn’t belong to this group. I never read an auto ban story from Microsoft. And my experience is that you can talk to a human customer service from Microsoft.

I signed up for an email address once, then they locked my account requiring a phone number because of "suspicious activity", where obviously the only suspicious activity was that they didn't have my phone number.

Re: Ask HN: Has Cloudflare blocked your domain without explaining what's going on?

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Post by hda2 »

sph wrote: post #56

> The suspension is permanent and we will not be making changes on our end. Someone else in this thread explained this as "they're flat up holding it hostage until it's publicly available for anyone to register." I will not do business with companies whose word is final, with no explanation and no recourse whatsoever, unless you shout loud enough that someone higher up the org tree decides to figure out what has happ…

Same here. Domains are the only thing I can't replicate or make redundant. If there is ANY risk of me getting locked out of my domains without even the possibility of transferring the domain away to another registrar, then I'm gone.

Bye, cloudflare.

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