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Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

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Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#21
Wanted to impress my vegan partner and learned to cook a lot of fun, easy and delicious recipes. I’ve never learned how to cook non-vegan dishes so I wouldn’t even know when to start. Eventually it became so normal I stopped ordering non-vegan food when eating out.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#22
Moral consistency. If I wouldn't kill it with my own hands then I won't eat it. Spend any thoughtful time around "edible" animals and the alternative starts to look more and more barbaric imho.

Practically speaking though, just eat meat whenever you want to: it's not a binary process (unless you're doing it for the approval of others).

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#23
The documentary Meet Your Meat. It was hard to watch, but I'm glad I did. Haven't eaten meat in a decade and I won't ever again.

The hardest part was eating meals with others, as virtually every adult eats meat. I cut out meat cold turkey:) but there was for sure a period where I was tempted despite ethical concerns.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#24
This was around 2010, although some of the motivations began in the several years leading up to then.

After eating chicken or ground beef, even if supposedly high quality more expensive offerings from grocery stores, my stomach would be upset (similar to how you might feel after eating four bags of fast food french fries).

Then around 2010, one after another big meat manufacturing recalls occurred in the US. Then I either watched a movie or read a book about a long time cattle rancher who became vegitarian, and his reasons. I forget the name, and I may not be remembering the exact background; but the gist was that this was a true meat person, and they left meat.

As I was serious about fitness at the time, particularly long technical single-track mountainbiking adventures, I wondered about how fitness might suffer without meat. I did some searches for professional athletes who were vegetarian, and I was surprised by the results. Suffice to say that not eating meat doesn't seem to prevent some people from being true top physical specimens.

So I went to the grocery store and decided to try no meat for a while. I started making big stir-frys in a wok, with lots of veggies. I got pretty good at that, and I could eat as much of that as I wanted without worry about calories. I also ate a LOT of salads.

I found it very satisfying, and I came to love veggies. I still love meat, but I almost never eat it... maybe once every few months, and usually just a small taste. No fish either, due to concerns of what's in fish and how it might be detrimental for my body.

I am not a fan of meat replamements. Those are often disappointing and relatively unehalthy (manufactured). And frankly, well prepared vegetarian dishes can be so good that my dining pleasure is at peak anyway... nothing would make me happier at the time.

Health-wise, there's strong evidence that cholesterol and other measurements which we think are important tend to be worse for meat eaters than vegetarians. So by not eating meat, I feel a bit less guilty sometimes eating some junk food. That's not my motivation though.

Lastly, I had a period of a couple of years after becoming vegetarian where I was doing pretty serious weight lifting. I was just shy of being at a competitive level. I did drink protein shakes a few times a week, but they were plant-based (not whey). Whether the shakes helped or not I cannot say; but being vegetarian didn't seem to prevent good quality muscle development.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#25
Guilt —- I was coming out of a lifelong emotional fugue state and starting to critically examine who I was, and I realized how wretched I felt for contributing to animal suffering. Started as vegetarian in February, went vegan a few weeks ago.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#26
I think we need more people to not have absolutest/religious type positions on diet and just eat less meat.

I view meat now like I view chocolate. I am not self banned from eating chocolate but I certainly do not need to eat chocolate every day. I am basically sometimes vegetarian, sometimes vegan until I want to have "cheat meals" and sometimes enjoy meat like I sometimes enjoy chocolate.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#27
Thought it ethically made sense since early teens (a childhood friend was very into animal rights) but never made a serious effort, just went with my habits.

Then in my early twenties, I went to a 10-day vipassana meditation retreat. During that time, we were only served vegan food. Once coming back I just didn't start eating meat (including fish) again, and haven't since. It happened pretty naturally with basically 0 effort-energy spent. The urge was just gone. Did the basic nerding down on nutrition and all that and now it's >10y later. To be ethically consistent I'd be going vegan (save for eggs sourced locally where I have insights into the welfare) and perhaps an occasional oyster (they lack a central nervous system) but a combination of laziness and external/environmental factors make me "cheat" and have regular intake of non-ethical eggs, and dairy. Had some vegan periods in the past. I recognize it as hypocrisy but it's what it is for now.

At this point I avoid talking about it and my only real frustration is social: It's not very common where I currently live and basically almost every first meal with a new person becomes an inquiry in my diet and precisely what I do and don't eat, and how delicious this and that are and how they couldn't live without eating that and every other time they segue it into questioning my motivations. Usually I'd prefer to just enjoy the meal and avoid thinking way too much about the food industry and animal ethics - it's gotten old at this point. If anything I can be a living example of how yes, it's possible to have a sustainable decently healthy diet while enjoying food, but other than that I usually try not to bring up the topic unless someone is pushing me to try foie gras or something.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#28

Thought it ethically made sense since early teens (a childhood friend was very into animal rights) but never made a serious effort, just went with my habits. Then in my early twenties, I went to a 10-day vipassana meditation retreat. During that time, we were only served vegan food. Once coming back I just didn't start eating meat (including fish) again, and haven't since. It happened pretty naturally with basically…

If you did it for ethical reasons, if for example you would find a rabbit or cow killed by natural causes like a big stone just rolled off from the mountain and hit the animal on the head. In that case, would be ethically ok to eat it?

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

#29
Animal torture (seeing trucks with bleeding pigs on the highway) and not liking meat very much anyway. These days I can add environmental concerns (I was a bit ignorant about that 20 years ago). I just quit cold turkey 20 years ago and I don't miss it. Sometimes I try it (only when travelling; we haven't cooked any in our home for 20 years) and then remember that it wasn't great in the first place; it is ok in an indian or thai curry but then I don't really see the benefit over vegetarian options either.

I like to cook and always have so I had never any issues making exciting food without meat. Most things we cook with we grow in our garden; we could stand a very long time without buying food if we would try which I find another advantage as for meat we would need a lot more land and effort than we have now.

Re: Ask HN: What prompted you to convert from non-vegetarian to vegetarian?

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post #6

It was a gradual thing. I never liked the taste of red meat, but enjoyed fish and chicken. So I cut red meat out pretty early (as soon as my parents stopped making me sit at the table to finish the meal). Later, as I learned more about factory farming and the treatment of chickens in factory farms, I stopped eating chicken and was just left with fish. And finally I learned more about fish farming and overfishing and…

Are you a man or a woman? I ask because I notice, women tend to often not like red meat as much, and often also like fish more than men. Observation seems to be supported by some evidence: https://faunalytics.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/GenderAtt...

Very interesting! I'm a woman.
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