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High tuition costs mostly stem from the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act 1993

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Re: High tuition costs mostly stem from the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act 1993

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

Mc91 wrote: post #12

Western Europeans seem to have figured out how to get a good, affordable college education without this sort of thing. Some Europeans I talked to said the government even gives them a per diem for spending money or what have you while they go to college. They don't seem to have onerous debt. Just like high medical costs, or school shootings (nineteen children were just killed by a gunman at a school in the US, for th…

Look at the cost of private colleges in the EU compared to the US. It's roughly what you would expect.

The difference between the EU and the US is mostly who pays for college - not how much it costs.

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Mc91 wrote: post #12

Western Europeans seem to have figured out how to get a good, affordable college education without this sort of thing. Some Europeans I talked to said the government even gives them a per diem for spending money or what have you while they go to college. They don't seem to have onerous debt. Just like high medical costs, or school shootings (nineteen children were just killed by a gunman at a school in the US, for th…

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Post by thehappypm »

willcipriano wrote: post #15
coryrc wrote: post #14

Michigan cut basically all remaining funding for higher education while I was in college. I saw double-digit percent increases every year. A few years ago I went back to look, assuming sky-high tuition rates, but they ended up only being a little bit higher than when I went. So why did tuition get high? The state stopped subsidizing it directly.

Given that degree holders go on to make wages much higher than those without, is it really fair that those without subsidize the education expenses of people who will go on to out earn them? Especially given how vanishingly little of it goes to actual education and instead administration and sporting programs.

It’s a societal good as a whole, so yes, societies should invest in them.

Example: not everyone becomes a doctor. But society needs doctors. Having affordable pre-med college programs benefits everyone, even though only doctors directly make income from the program.

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Post by Agamus »

"The solution is and always has been to cut the fluff from the academies. For context, go add up the salaries the 'student services' area of the expensive school of your choice.

Having worked for one such office for ~15 years, the most appalling part was that they are largely antagonistic toward the faculty and mission of the schools. The waste is dizzying."

I made the above comment on another thread with a similar topic: "Boston University Undergraduate Cost Reach $80K" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31309700

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Post by nicoburns »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #13
thereddaikon wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

few people want to go there because the bit of paper you get at the end is the value and those a worth less than the bits of paper you get from other universities.

If you reason from the premise that it's only the diploma that matters, I'm not sure it makes sense to talk about "transitioning" college from one model to another in the first place. We can't just decide by administrative fiat to transfer a bit of prestige from Harvard to the local 2-year school, even if we all agree it'd be better that way.

No, but we can decide by administrative fiat that Harvard can’t charge more than the community college does, and must transition its business model to be similar to that of the community college.

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Post by hackererror404 »

Might be an unpopular opinion... but this is exactly why we shouldn't do student loan debt forgiveness. The root core of the issue wouldn't at all be addressed and it would actually be a signal to universities and students alike, that Universities can charge more, and students can continue to take out larger loans because... they might be forgiven at some future point in time.

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Post by throw93232 »

mgamache wrote: post #17
throw93232 wrote: post #11

College today has way more responsibilities. It has to fix rape culture, dismantle patriarchy, fix diversity, organize protests... All that costs money. In 1990ties 20% of students got raped, nobody wants to go back to that dark times!

Is this meant as parody? I can't tell sometimes.

Why it would be parody? It is a reality. I can provide quotes from university officials.

Re: High tuition costs mostly stem from the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act 1993

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Post by suture »

State funding per student has steadily declined since 1987. Tuition rates have risen in response. I don’t claim all of the tuition increases have come from the decline in funding but the decline in public funding contributes to the increase. Public colleges are more and more being run like businesses. According to this research, public funding for higher education has declined in response to increased welfare and Medicaid spending.

https://www.educationnext.org/state-funding-public-colleges-...

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