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Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees of task lists

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Post by monkeyguy37 »

Currently an alpha is available in their Discord server.

I'm not the creator, if you have any questions about the program feel free to join the Discord server.

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Re: Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees of task lists

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Post by dotancohen »

This looks like a great was of managing todos (storing the notes, setting their state, tagging them, changing their state, setting their dependency todos, deciding in which colour each note type/state/tag should appear, moving it in the calendar, toggling the stopwatch/timer/pomodoro, etc) instead of actually just doing the things on the list.

Re: Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees of task lists

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Post by kkfx »

To my eyes seems to be the nth modern notebook UI application, witch is NOT a critics but a consideration: on classic systems, from old Smalltalk to actual Emacs the "notebook" or "document" UI was and are the norm.

Then the critic part: ALL such modern "document-centric UI" have one and ONLY ONE purpose, witch means they can't be integrated with anything else. For instance I can't link an email and an open ticket in a task in Todool, simply because that document UI lack the knowledge for such action while in Emacs/org-mode I perfectly can link an Email, a ticket, a feed post, an HN post etc NOT because someone have implemented that specific feature in an app but because there is no app but a unique ecosystem extended by "apps", no separation, no special IPCs needed.

Long story short: while potentially modern apps can do more graphically than classic ones, simply because those are almost stuck at 40/50 years ago development, they all fail because all are single application running on bare-bone crappy systems designed to be like a container ship for commercial purpose, instead of a unique ecosystem where any app is just a set of functions.

Please, all devs, think about that. FLOSS CAN restore the ancient model, NO ONE corporate want simply because it's incompatible with their business needs, so "we can win" if instead of investing resources copying BigTech stuff for doing new things we develop old tech FAR MORE ADVANCED than modern one thanks to a user-centric design.

Re: Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees of task lists

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Post by badsectoracula »

This is basically an outliner[0]. Looking around the page i didn't see any graphics, only text. At the past i wrote a text-only outliner[1] which while very useful, i eventually found the need to embed images, change text styles, etc and the only way to do it would be to basically rewrite 90% of it (so i never bothered) as it was written explicitly for console/text mode. Since you are using graphical output, i'd recommend to check what sort of non-text functionality you can add (checkmarks, progressbars -which IMO are inferior to percentages anyway-, etc aren't really taking advantage of graphics, i refer to things like images or even videos, text styling, etc).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner

[1] http://runtimeterror.com/tools/ol/

Re: Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees of task lists

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Post by alephnan »

> Currently an alpha is available in their Discord server. I'm not the creator, if you have any questions about the program feel free to join the Discord server.

This feels sketchy. I've never seen software distributed this way. Why not just provide a download link if the effort has already been made for the website with videos.

Re: Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees of task lists

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Post by cseleborg »

Oh, dear. Managing deep trees of TODOs is... not a good way of managing TODOs.

I find long TODO lists/trees stressful and cumbersome. I used to maintain quite a few of those, but eventually found it discouraging. There's no end in sight!

What I appreciate about GTD and its context lists that look and feel like TODO lists is that they are short. While I may have items sitting on mine for several weeks at a time, overall, they feel entirely manageable, like about a week's worth of work. GTD provides me with other tools to get stuff out of my head and reliably resurface them when needed.

(Edit: style)

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