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Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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Given that no kindles fires have shipped, they haven't booked any revenue or costs for them yet, either.

I'm pretty sure their vendors would disagree.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't, since that's how GAAP accounting works. For revenues and costs directly related to a product, you don't book them until the product is shipped to a customer.

Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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Profit's are such a volatile metric. Amazon's been spending like crazy in the last few months on producing new Kindle products - most of which are being sold as a loss leader in an effort to push book sales. Note that Amazon's overall Revenues are up 44% Less sensational, more nuts and bolts article http://www.marketwatch.com/story/amazoncom-announces-third-q...

That's not an article, that's a press release. Source is Business Wire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Wire "Business Wire is a company that disseminates full-text news releases from thousands of companies and organizations worldwide to news media, financial markets, disclosure systems, investors, information web sites, databases and other audiences" Does the press have an incentive to talk about the plunge in…

I don't think you needed to provide that link/quote. It's got "PRESS RELEASE" printed right there at the top of the article.

Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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I wonder if analysts have learned yet not to dismiss apparently crazy moves by Jeff Bezos.

Crazy moves like "heavy spending on warehouses, data centers and digital-content offerings"

An online store buying stock and building infrastructure !!!!! Crazy , they should be borrowing money and paying themselves bonuses before going bust - that's what Wall St wants

Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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post #11

I wonder if analysts have learned yet not to dismiss apparently crazy moves by Jeff Bezos.

They'll probably never learn, but Jeff doesn't care: http://www.geekwire.com/2011/amazons-bezos-innovation

That's great, thanks for sharing.

"Very importantly, we are willing to be misunderstood for long periods of time.... I believe if you don’t have that set of things in your corporate culture, then you can’t do large-scale invention. You can do incremental invention, which is critically important for any company. But it is very difficult — if you are not willing to be misunderstood. People will misunderstand you."

Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure their vendors would disagree.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't, since that's how GAAP accounting works. For revenues and costs directly related to a product, you don't book them until the product is shipped to a customer.

Its been awhile since I took an accounting class, but lets say my cost of producing the kindle fire was $20 and my expected ability to sell it was at $15, I would book my kindle inventory at $15 on the books even though its acquisition cost was higher (i.e. you put it on your books at the lower of acquisition cost and expected disposal value). This has only been part a GAAP since 1990 though.

Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure their vendors would disagree.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't, since that's how GAAP accounting works. For revenues and costs directly related to a product, you don't book them until the product is shipped to a customer.

Not exactly. While you are correct that their profits would not necessarily be impacted, it's because the purchased goods or raw materials are booked as inventory (asset), and not part of COGS (liability).

The cost of constructing the new Kindles is still booked, just under a different part of the book. Once the devices are sold, the amount changes from an asset to a liability.

Re: Amazon's Profit Plunges 73%

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post #11

I wonder if analysts have learned yet not to dismiss apparently crazy moves by Jeff Bezos.

Crazy moves like "heavy spending on warehouses, data centers and digital-content offerings" An online store buying stock and building infrastructure !!!!! Crazy , they should be borrowing money and paying themselves bonuses before going bust - that's what Wall St wants

Wall Street share prices are not particularly high either.
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