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Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by blibble »

javajosh wrote: post #79

Am I the only one who looks at these projects with a combination of awe and apathy and jealousy? I do software, not hardware, and I like knowing how things work. When an expert in a different field glances at a PCB and identifies components, their purpose, by sight, and then rummages around a loose parts bin to go deeper, it dawns on me: this is someone's life. The same way I've been swimming in (application) softwar…

pretty much all of that should be part of any reasonable CS degree

was certainly part of mine, and mine was more theoretical than most

(I certainly remember peering through datasheets of various obscure TI chips during afternoon labs)

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by Frenchgeek »

I should buy one for my own but turns out you can put detergent between washing cycles, as long as you don't connect the dishwasher to a water line (well, I didn't check the other way around to be fair)

So I'm still weighting the convenience of turning it on and forgetting about it versus being able to buy the detergent for cheap at the mall...

Finding where you can buy the correct products for the cartridges can be quite the puzzle, last time I found a cheap-ish one with a "nice" 99€ delivery charge.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by DantesKite »

hguant wrote: post #65
causality0 wrote: post #5

I see the point of that dishwasher for someone who doesn't have easy access to a sink like a student in a dorm, but I can't fathom why you'd put one in a house or apartment. With such a tiny capacity you're better off hand washing.

1. Handwashing is water inefficient compared to a lot of dishwashers; if this is something that's important to you, a device like this makes ecologic, if not necessarily economic sense 2. Dishwashers are expensive to people not on tech salaries. All upfront costs are difficult; a smaller upfront payment with a recurring monthly/quarterly subscription payment is much more manageable for many people. 3. There are many…

4. Dishwashers catch on fire fairly easily and commonly. Perhaps that one is a safer design.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by mynameismon »

netr0ute wrote: post #89
throwxxxaway wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can it be that we are just getting old? The new generation will have their brains wired to ignore ads, will be ok with devices spying on them (it will be called something else). And we will be something like that grandpa that can't unblock the mobile phone. (for example, use that new blockchain smart contract to open the fridge and order some food NFTs)

> Can it be that we are just getting old? That's rich, considering that I'm 18 and I have the same views.

Hey! I'm 17 here :D

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by feanaro »

LoveGracePeace wrote: post #246
skeeter2020 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree! please keep up the fight. Use the benefits (like ad blocking making YT watchable) to encourage other young people to fight too!

Hold on there. Ads popping up on YT are annoying but it's up to the user to decide if they are worth the content they're watching, same as TV or print or the radio. Using an Ad blocker in my view is no different than stealing.

Nope. Website sends information to my computer, my computer displays it the way I want it to be displayed. The website sending the information doesn't own my computer.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by Bud »

ikurei wrote: post #168
tomrod wrote: post #14

I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. We just replaced our "high tech" Maytag dryer and its "advanced" feature set for a low tech SpeedQueen, the same dryers you find in most Laundromats. Why? Repairability. While we could _technically_ replace the burnt out fuse in the Maytag, it would take at least two hours f…

> Knobs in the car and on appliances. I want knobs in my car, but I specially want no GPS tracking, no connection to the internet. My not-that-old dead-dinosaur-powered car doesn't have it, but I'd like to switch to an electric car in the next few years and I'm fearing it. Will anyone build an electric but dumb car? I know some of the earlier electrics were dumb (in this desirable sense) but they also had significat…

I'd say Apple is basically your only hope. And it remains to be seen whether Apple's car will ever ship, and if it does, it might not be available for the public to purchase.

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Post by throwaway09223 »

OJFord wrote: post #226
nagisa wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This depends on the manufacturer. Some manufacturers make dishwashers that can utilize both hot and cold water and others only work with cold or hot water. As an example Frigidaire, GE, KitchenAid, Whirlpool will only work with hot water; Samsung, Ikea, Beko will only work with cold water; and Bosch, Miele, Electrolux, LG will work with either.

Interesting, I don't think it does here other than extreme minority of cases - because it's just not standard plumbing. You typically have a washing machine & dishwasher hookup & waste under the sink; it's pretty standardised and it's on cold. > As an example Frigidaire, GE, KitchenAid, Whirlpool will only work with hot water Yeah, afaik without actually looking into it, of those only Whirlpool is distributed here (K…

How do you handle softened water in the UK?

In the US, it's common to have a water softener on the hot water line, intended to soften the inputs for appliances and showers. The cold water line is not softened, to avoid drinking sodium-laced water.

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Post by detaro »

LoveGracePeace wrote: post #246
skeeter2020 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree! please keep up the fight. Use the benefits (like ad blocking making YT watchable) to encourage other young people to fight too!

Hold on there. Ads popping up on YT are annoying but it's up to the user to decide if they are worth the content they're watching, same as TV or print or the radio. Using an Ad blocker in my view is no different than stealing.

> same as TV

is switching channels or otherwise ignoring the TV while ads are on also stealing?

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by mynameismon »

kortex wrote: post #252
javajosh wrote: post #79

Am I the only one who looks at these projects with a combination of awe and apathy and jealousy? I do software, not hardware, and I like knowing how things work. When an expert in a different field glances at a PCB and identifies components, their purpose, by sight, and then rummages around a loose parts bin to go deeper, it dawns on me: this is someone's life. The same way I've been swimming in (application) softwar…

I was in the same spot when I met this brilliant hardware hacker at this hackerspace who had no formal EE degree but could design circuits in his sleep. "How do you do it?" "I read data sheets and a lot of wikipedia". I already spend tons of time on wiki, so I started reading data sheets. And he was absolutely right, datasheets for components are often chock full of information on how to use them, often with recipe b…

> datasheets for components are often chock full of information on how to use them, often with recipe books for circuits that use them.

Curious, I looked into the datasheet linked in the post[0]. While I get what you mean by "chock full of information", I can't make the head or tail of it. Where do I get started? (genuinely)

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