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Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by iratewizard »

tomrod wrote: post #14

I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. We just replaced our "high tech" Maytag dryer and its "advanced" feature set for a low tech SpeedQueen, the same dryers you find in most Laundromats. Why? Repairability. While we could _technically_ replace the burnt out fuse in the Maytag, it would take at least two hours f…

It should be noted that the Bob cartridge is completely optional you can also just add regular detergent as per the manufacturer.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by pessimizer »

j-bos wrote: post #118
fifticon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've justed installed 5 years' worth of Revit on my new laptop today, and with each year the UI on their installers are getting worse. On Revit 2022, some of the splash screen prompts are not resizable and not MOVABLE, ie they don't respond to alt+space for windows menu. This is not OK. On one of them, I had to answer input prompts that they rendered OFF SCREEN. I solved that by changing display resolution.. Another…

Revit installs are the worst. Iused to freelance for an engineer and once I moved on from that it was amazing how much cruft from Autodesk was left on my machine. I'm guessing most of it was based on anti piracy measures. I often wonder how much overlap there is between anti piracy, ani cheat, and "productivity" measuring tech.

> I often wonder how much overlap there is between anti piracy, ani cheat, and "productivity" measuring tech.

I've never heard it put this succinctly. Are the same companies doing all of these things because the expertise transfers? Do they have journals and conferences together?

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by heretogetout »

DeathArrow wrote: post #190
tomrod wrote: post #14

I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. We just replaced our "high tech" Maytag dryer and its "advanced" feature set for a low tech SpeedQueen, the same dryers you find in most Laundromats. Why? Repairability. While we could _technically_ replace the burnt out fuse in the Maytag, it would take at least two hours f…

>I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. But how much time is still possible to find boring technology? Unless you find used? And you won't find used for a very long amount of time. Maybe this is a good business case, produce boring technology for people who don't want connected cupboards and dish washer and prefe…

It might be easier to produce retrofit (pun intended?) kits for appliances that have good core components but could be improved with some tactile dials and what have you.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by pessimizer »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #188
throwxxxaway wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can it be that we are just getting old? The new generation will have their brains wired to ignore ads, will be ok with devices spying on them (it will be called something else). And we will be something like that grandpa that can't unblock the mobile phone. (for example, use that new blockchain smart contract to open the fridge and order some food NFTs)

Having seen the confusion on my daughter's face when pressing skip ad on the TV didn't work I'm inclined to agree somewhat.

Sounds like she hates ads as much as the rest of us.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by fundatus »

ameesdotme wrote: post #27
causality0 wrote: post #5

I see the point of that dishwasher for someone who doesn't have easy access to a sink like a student in a dorm, but I can't fathom why you'd put one in a house or apartment. With such a tiny capacity you're better off hand washing.

Bob- and apartment-owner here. We have a small kitchen and just don't have the space for a full-sized dishwasher. Bob fits snugly in the cabinet under the sink and runs once a day for a 2-person household. It's perfect for our needs and saves us a lot of both time and water.

Same! Also it washes at up to 70°C which you simply can't do when hand washing - but it gives you a much better result with less water usage.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by finnh »

dkurth wrote: post #179
ben-schaaf wrote: post #154

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Are you perhaps using tabs? Dishwashers need detergent in the rinse cycle, otherwise they don't rinse well, and tabs don't let you do that. I've had friends who have always pre-rinsed because of wrong dishwasher use. Once they switched to powder and put some in the rinse cycle their dishes don't need pre-rinsing. See https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04

Thank you, I will definitely watch this. We have tried pre-wash detergent, tabs, liquid soap, powder detergents, in various combinations. There may be something unusual wrong with our dishwasher. Although we clean its filter regularly, sometimes a kind of brown slime forms along the walls and around the filter, and I have to give it a deeper cleaning. Bosch had no idea what this was! I'm curious if anyone else has ex…

whoa. sounds like your drainage might be at fault. i have never heard of anything like this. I'm not a plumber, or anything related, but dishwashers should not have slime and should not need cleaning. yikes.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by tinco »

spiffytech wrote: post #158
tinco wrote: post #132

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Did you see the price tag? This device is super cheap for what it is, same as inkjet printers are. It's easier to sell a $50 printer and recover your losses through ink, than it is to sell a $200 printer. You could solve the "system" by regulating that companies are not allowed to sell products at a loss, but that would be unamerican.

> You could solve the "system" by regulating that companies are not allowed to sell products at a loss, but that would be unamerican. To memory, Nintendo is the only console maker that turns a profit on the hardware (which is part of why their hardware specs are always outdated). Sony & Microsoft don't turn a profit until you buy ~3 games. I think people would be surprised at how often products are sold at a loss.

Definitely, this is also why the "this is unamerican" (meaning of course the argument is against free market) is not an unjustified argument. It is very likely that inkjet printers have become much better due to inkjet printer manufacturers being able to compete much better having such an effective marketing strategy.

Buying these devices is effectively the same as taking out a small loan, that you're repaying by buying the games/cartridges, and it's a well known fact that loans leverage economies. I wonder if some day we'll have a less intrusive ways of establishing these micro loans to enable consumers access to excellent technology.

Inkjet printers, this tiny dishwasher, the Sony Playstation 4, they're all incredible devices that people get through this scheme. It's not just that the price is spread out by the way, a consumer could easily achieve that by using a credit card, but also the consumer is shielded from a bit of risk. If that $50 inkjet printer turns out to be shit they can simply not buy any cartridges for it, and won't be out $200 bucks on it.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by [deleted] »

tomrod wrote: post #14

I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. We just replaced our "high tech" Maytag dryer and its "advanced" feature set for a low tech SpeedQueen, the same dryers you find in most Laundromats. Why? Repairability. While we could _technically_ replace the burnt out fuse in the Maytag, it would take at least two hours f…

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Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by [deleted] »

Waterluvian wrote: post #69

Wow. So I'm watching the Techmoan review and it's just amazing. You've got this pretty awesome product.... up until you can clearly see the business types shoving their grubby hands in the way of UX and good engineering. Oh no no no. We can't just sell a product. We need recurring revenue. So we'll make DRM proprietary detergent pods that require electronics in each one. Ah, but people will reject that because they k…

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Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by lupire »

madeofpalk wrote: post #187
spiffytech wrote: post #166

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> Handwashing is water inefficient compared to a lot of dishwashers My grandmother insisted the right way to hand-wash dishes was to plug the sink and fill it up, scrub with your hands in the water, then drain and rinse everything all at once. That should be similar efficiency (or greater?) vs a modern dishwasher, but I'm not sure anyone does that anymore. Everyone else I've seen leaves the water running the whole ti…

It looks like this dishwasher uses only 3 litres of water for a full cycle. That's probably significantly less than you're filling your sink up.

But it takes more than one cycle for a full load of dishes.
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