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Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by [deleted] »

paskozdilar wrote: post #8
andai wrote: post #3

>Detergent DRM The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. (...) The continued development of technology will worsen the situation.

That quote (and the work it is taken from) is becoming more relevant by the day. I am very pessimistic about the future and I don't believe that we can fight against the enormous power that technology gives to those that can use it on a massive scale. I just hope that the eventual dictator will be a "soft-hearted leftist" and decide to turn the world into a huge human zoo, instead of some sadistic overlord that will…

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Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by concordDance »

refurb wrote: post #17
andai wrote: post #3

>Detergent DRM The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. (...) The continued development of technology will worsen the situation.

Exactly I hate the industrial revolution. I much preferred getting a splinter and then dying of a bacterial infection a week later. Edit: in case anyone was wondering, the industrial revolution, namely the dye industry, started mass production of antibiotics, without the industrial revolution = no antibiotics

What's that have to do with the industrial revolution?

Also, do you know what the adult life expectancy was in pre-industrial times?

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by concordDance »

Semaphor wrote: post #24
paskozdilar wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was just detergent DRM, I'd probably agree with you.

So which parts are bad enough that you’d prefer medieval serfdom?

It's a shame we can't go back to the pre-serfdom days, before mass agriculture.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by paskozdilar »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #29
paskozdilar wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steam implements DRM: https://blackshellmedia.com/2017/06/28/steam-employs-drm-mea... Non-joke answer: DRM wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Steam Engine. That argument is central to anarcho-primitivism - industrial society will enslave people more and more through technology, and there is no way to prevent it, therefore industrial revolution is a mistake.

Nor would you, in all probability.

Okay.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by marcinzm »

guerrilla wrote: post #36
marcinzm wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Growth above all else is in many ways humanities driving force.

Nonsense, humans are no different than any other animals and survive best in equilibrium and always die out in cases of uncontrolled growth.

>Nonsense, humans are no different than any other animals and survive best in equilibrium and always die out in cases of uncontrolled growth.

Yet left on their own they will uncontrollably grow like what happens with invasive species. Then they'll collapse. Repeat a few times and some type of equilibrium may happen for a while until something else breaks it.

Animals have no magic "equilibrium" sense but rather the surviving ones have evolved to have an equilibrium with their environment. That doesn't even mean the animal changed genetically but rather that other animals (ie: the environment) did to provide competition.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by darkwater »

tyingq wrote: post #38

I wonder if you could just tie pin 7 (VCC) to pin 8 (Write Protect). I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they didn't check for success on the write. Would be a much simpler hack.

But then you would have to manually keep count of the used cycles to know when manually refill the cassette.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by bombcar »

throwxxxaway wrote: post #32
tomrod wrote: post #14

I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. We just replaced our "high tech" Maytag dryer and its "advanced" feature set for a low tech SpeedQueen, the same dryers you find in most Laundromats. Why? Repairability. While we could _technically_ replace the burnt out fuse in the Maytag, it would take at least two hours f…

Can it be that we are just getting old? The new generation will have their brains wired to ignore ads, will be ok with devices spying on them (it will be called something else). And we will be something like that grandpa that can't unblock the mobile phone. (for example, use that new blockchain smart contract to open the fridge and order some food NFTs)

We are getting old - but part of getting old is remembering things that could be repaired instead of thrown away.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by throwaway09223 »

tomrod wrote: post #14

I am, more and more, deliberately choosing boring technology. Knobs in the car and on appliances. No screen interfaces. Low-tech where possible. We just replaced our "high tech" Maytag dryer and its "advanced" feature set for a low tech SpeedQueen, the same dryers you find in most Laundromats. Why? Repairability. While we could _technically_ replace the burnt out fuse in the Maytag, it would take at least two hours f…

SpeedQueen owner here as well. Even more important than repairability is that the SpeedQueen actually cleans my clothes.

In the 80s I remember coming home with mud caked on my clothes, shaking them off and throwing them in the washer. I'd even throw my muddy sneakers in the wash. If I try that with a modern low-water unit there's still dirt on them after a wash. The SpeedQueen will handle this kind of heavy soiling.

It seems like modern washers are designed for modern (mostly indoor) living. They freshen clothes, but they don't really wash them.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by marcinzm »

paskozdilar wrote: post #42
Semaphor wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So which parts are bad enough that you’d prefer medieval serfdom?

Noise pollution is my number one. There is simply no way to escape it living in the city, and there are no job opportunities for software engineers on the countryside (not that it's perfect on the countryside either - given all the motor-based tractors, chainsaws, lawnmowers, leafblowers...). I hate it and it's driving me crazy and all I want is peace and quiet, but apparently, that's too much to ask and I'm spoiled…

I mean with the growth of renewable energy, satellite internet and WFH you can work from the middle of the woods (and there's actually many woods out there still). All of that thanks to ever progressing technology.

Re: Bob Cassette Rewinder: Hacking Detergent DRM

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Post by dreamcompiler »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #25

Not gonna like, this dishwasher looks ridiculously ineffective even without DRM.

In older buildings in Europe it's a royal pain to install or upgrade plumbing for a dishwasher or washing machine, or even install a dryer vent to the outdoors. Plus kitchens are often quite tiny by US standards. This device shines in that market.
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