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Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by shkkmo »

iamcurious wrote: post #92
shkkmo wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox on desktop is pertty solid, despite some controversial decisions. Firedox on android has a lot of issues.

Which ones? On principle, I never use chrome on android. Am I missing some killer feature?

Constant crashes that lose open tabs, layout glitches where display gets offset from ui trigger points (including on this site), downloads that just fail / don't work.

You'd think that this would have me stop using it, but I really don't want to use Chrome/Brave/DDG so have just been putting up with it.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by dicknuckle »

shkkmo wrote: post #121
iamcurious wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which ones? On principle, I never use chrome on android. Am I missing some killer feature?

Constant crashes that lose open tabs, layout glitches where display gets offset from ui trigger points (including on this site), downloads that just fail / don't work. You'd think that this would have me stop using it, but I really don't want to use Chrome/Brave/DDG so have just been putting up with it.

why not Kiwi Browser? uses chromium under the hood. allows chrome extensions to be installed, but most don't work.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by dicknuckle »

iamcurious wrote: post #92
shkkmo wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox on desktop is pertty solid, despite some controversial decisions. Firedox on android has a lot of issues.

Which ones? On principle, I never use chrome on android. Am I missing some killer feature?

try Kiwi Browser.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by zamadatix »

dicknuckle wrote: post #122
shkkmo wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Constant crashes that lose open tabs, layout glitches where display gets offset from ui trigger points (including on this site), downloads that just fail / don't work. You'd think that this would have me stop using it, but I really don't want to use Chrome/Brave/DDG so have just been putting up with it.

why not Kiwi Browser? uses chromium under the hood. allows chrome extensions to be installed, but most don't work.

Like most small-backing Chromium clones it's usually ~2 months behind on patches (normal and security) and the published source is about ~10 months behind. Being effectively closed for the release version and very small from a development side it does wonky things like redirect your "Google" searches through their servers since they don't have proper search agreements.

I.e. it's basically "an interesting Chromium clone maintained by a couple of folks out of Estonia". If you're cool with that it can be a nifty browser, for many that just makes it to unproven to dump access to their entire online world into.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by perryizgr8 »

gabereiser wrote: post #2

“It will be free upfront; the team is looking at developing premium subscription features for enterprise users, perhaps somewhere around $12 a month, echoing the freemium model of Slack Technologies Inc., Dropbox Inc., and other productivity services.” Good luck with that. The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it. If it’s open source then it will be ridiculed for not having an op…

> Safari gets away with this because...

No, Safari gets away with it on iOS because Apple literally allows no other option. On desktop, Safari doesn't "get away" with anything, because people have choice.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by gabrielsroka »

sealeck wrote: post #84
capableweb wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of stuff you see in Bloomberg (and elsewhere) either gets paid to be put there (some via agencies that specializes in things like that), or put on there via connections. They are not reporting on underdogs for the fun of it.

Do you have a source for this? Not in any way saying it's not true but would be interesting if there was some analysis somewhere.

http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by TingPing »

shkkmo wrote: post #121
iamcurious wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which ones? On principle, I never use chrome on android. Am I missing some killer feature?

Constant crashes that lose open tabs, layout glitches where display gets offset from ui trigger points (including on this site), downloads that just fail / don't work. You'd think that this would have me stop using it, but I really don't want to use Chrome/Brave/DDG so have just been putting up with it.

Anecdotally I've never experienced a single one of those bugs in Firefox on Android as a heavy user.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by I_AM_A_SMURF »

CharlesW wrote: post #100
zagrebian wrote: post #98

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> Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine?

> What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine? This is the right question. The answer is probably what you're thinking: Absolutely nothing. It'd be a giant waste of time to spend 5 years rebuilding plumbing instead of focusing on where one can actually differentiate.

5? more like 10. Servo was in development for 8 years before Mozilla pulled the plug and it was nowhere near production ready. And the people working on it were experienced browser engineers already.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by _nalply »

225beef wrote: post #16
geogra4 wrote: post #5

Is there any reason that they couldn't build this ui on top of chrome? I've seen quite a lot of chrome based browsers with interesting uis

Im a beta tester for this product and it does use Chromium under the hood, pre-bundled with uBlock no less.

I would like to read more about this. Do you have links?
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