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In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Post by Pelam »

barbs wrote: post #123

I feel like there should be a term for over-designing something that doesn't need to be redesigned. I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? A classic example for me is microwaves. The amount of variations I've seen to enter in a time and turn it on is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes please! I feel "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" doesn’t capture it in a meaningful way.

I think this is more of a mental and organizational phenomenon than one guy attacking a working machine with a spanner.

A simple lack of resourcing and time pressure may be part of it, but it may have componenents of a kind of willful ignorance of prior art and complexities of the world, even ego driven, self serving and arrogant attitudes.

Perhaps it is related to the famous NIH-syndrome in software, but clearly different too. In software I think this manifests as continuous churn of features and UI elements as well as negligence of usability and technical aspects.

”Fast Food Design”?

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #82
blamazon wrote: post #31

In my car-centric city (southeast USA, population ~125k) when I visit private property with no bicycle parking, I try to find the owner and offer to install one of these just for the cost of materials. The idea being, they can put in another one when they see more than one customer on a bicycle at the same time. It's very cheap, less than 100 bucks typically as I have the requisite tools in my garage to make them fro…

To be appropriately secure, these really need installing in concrete as shown in the initial tweet. Still, better to have one less secure sheffield installed than zero.

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Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Post by y7 »

Beltalowda wrote: post #106

These are my favourite: https://i.imgur.com/jpF0eZV.png Slightly more complex design, but easy to lock, easy to park, bike doesn't fall over, doesn't damage the paint on your frame, fairly compact if you have multiple bikes. They're pretty ubiquitous where I live in the Netherlands; although some stores have really crappy "wheel-only" stands like in the thread.

Agreed. These are a lot more space efficient than the Sheffield stand.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Post by piperswe »

trillic wrote: post #141
ekianjo wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in japan bikes are stolen once in a while by drunk salarymen who dont want to wamk to go back home. so not 100% safe but fairly safe. also all bikes have a registration number so you eventually find them.

At what size is an island small enough, such that a drunk man riding a bike home is merely seen as borrowing it, and is not a thief?

I'm not sure what you mean by an "island small enough" - is this metaphor or literal?

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Post by matsemann »

spencerflem wrote: post #57

I really like this style of bike racks: https://www.wuft.org/news/files/2019/10/ElectricScooter-1024... (Don't know the name) It lets two fit in next to each other by raising the wheel of one, and the wheel locks means it just slots in so nicely. Plus a raised part for the lock

Can't lock anything but the front wheel. And it only works for classic bike geometries, so not the more expensive cargo bikes people use as car replacements.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Post by unholythree »

causality0 wrote: post #91
cranekam wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're supposed to fix the frame to the stand, why are you just attaching the wheel? Because the "wheel grabber" makes it very hard to lock the frame as well as the wheel. About all that is possible without a long wire (which are generally easy to cut and thus inferior to a D-lock) is to get the lock through the rear triangle. This assumes you're able to get the bike in rear wheel first, of course. I'd rather find…

generally easy to cut and thus inferior to a D-lock Is that a serious consideration? Jesus, I had no idea the environment in which these were used. I'd be scared to leave my house.

Where I live it’s probably poorly supervised kids or drug addicts stealing bikes. I’m not generally afraid for my safety but I do fear for my unsecured possessions.
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