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Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by zagrebian »

ushakov wrote: post #57
kbyatnal wrote: post #50

why are all these comments so negative? I, for one, am very excited that talented developers and designers are reimagining such a core part of everyone's daily workflow. The embedded calendar / music player (along with auto archived tabs) is very cool - not sure how well it'll work in practice, but it's clear the team has put their heart into this. And more competition for Google/Apple is always good.

beyond a slightly different UI, there's nothing you can "reimagine" in a web browser embedding third-party services is a feature that is prone to break often Chrome became the #1 because it was technically advanced (faster) but more importantly - endorsed by a search giant

The UI shown in the screenshot is radically different.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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ThinkBeat wrote: post #94

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of. Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scrat…

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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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[deleted] wrote: post #104
ThinkBeat wrote: post #94

"Arc Browser" is just Chromium + uBlock + some GUI enhancements I really wish that articles about "new browsers" should state up front what (if anything) they are built on top of. Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. The near impossible complexity in writing a new web browser from scrat…

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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by Nextgrid »

djbusby wrote: post #87
Nextgrid wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox's problem is the company behind it, not the rendering engine. Firefox is actually a pretty fine browser if you pair it with uBlock Origin and neuter its wide range of user-hostile "features" and keep maintaining that as updates often introduce new "features" you'll need to disable.

What's your top three user hostile feature? Have you looked at LibreFox? Edit: I see there is a LibreWolf and a LibreFox

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31551947.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by workona »

chrisfrantz wrote: post #97
DarthNebo wrote: post #82

Anyone remember Refresh concept from a while back, https://phase.com/magazine/refresh-rethinking-the-browser/

This looks great, did it ever launch?

Our iPad app provides a pretty similar user experience as their concept video: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/workona-project-organizer/id15...

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by pvg »

Retric wrote: post #93
meibo wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is that supposed to say about reputation? It's the most popular browser by far, and they actually do have a very publicized team that reports bugs to not just Chrome, but Apple and Mozilla as well. In my circles this is well respected, and personally, it inspires more confidence in the infrastructure around Chrome to me. I'd be wary of any "new" browser engines in unsafe languages.

> What is that supposed to say about reputation? Just that people don’t consider chrome extremely secure, it may be acceptable 99% of the time, but it doesn’t get a free pass in extreme security environments.

What is the 'extreme security environment' you have in mind? Very little end-user software operates in an environment and with operational parameters as adversarial as a modern web browser's.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by Nextgrid »

Shadonototra wrote: post #83

dead on arrival, nobody is looking for a new browser chrome proved that people give no shit about browsers the UI/UX haven't changed since day 1, still minimalist AF firefox usage dropped massively, as they kept iterating on their UI/UX, forgetting the reason why people needed a browser in the fist place, instead they kept raising the salary of their CEO, as if he/she/it was the reason why people wanted to use firefo…

> people give no shit about browsers

This is mainly because people who are tech-savvy already have a good set up (Firefox with uBlock Origin and all bullshit disabled), and those who aren't don't know what they're missing out on because a browser by itself (even Firefox) doesn't actually fix any of their problems.

A user-focused browser bundled with functionality that fixes today's user-hostile web (whether built-in or as preinstalled uBlock/etc) would convince anyone who tries it.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Post by zagrebian »

LegitShady wrote: post #99
zagrebian wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Each time I am hopeful that someone has taken on the monumental task of creating a new, better, or at least different web engine/ browser. The competition would be good. What would be the benefit of having a browser with a new web engine?

Competition and funding for non chromium initiatives. If someoone had asked the same question before chrome would you have agreed with them?

Well, Google didn’t develop a new engine for Chrome. They forked WebKit. And then Samsung, Microsoft, and others forked Chromium for their own browsers. (These forks are kept close to Chromium, but they’re still forks.)
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