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In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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Generally reasonable except:

> Sexy?

> No.

> Doesn’t pass the simplicity test and completely unnecessary.

If the only complaints about an "art" style installation are that it isn't simple or the absolute minimum, that sounds like a major win.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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post #40

This is a very angry person. He claims he's going to explain why the alternatives are crap. The first he starts off OK. I've never seen this specific design, but fine, you can't securely lock your bike. No explanation on what "securely" means (presumably at least two locks, one through each wheel) He talks about "wheel benders", but doesn't explain what makes them deserve such a name. It goes downhill from there. Num…

It's written in the "Twitter voice." The angry tone is clearly for humorous effect.

(Also: it's called a "wheel bender" because it can bend your wheel. It deserves the name because it does that, sometimes.)

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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There's an American firm called Forms+Surfaces that has a whole catalog full of terrible, weird bike racks. They must have a lot of mindshare among architects apparently because their junk keeps popping up all over California. Nobody who has ever used a bicycle would choose them but they keep showing up anyway. Here's a fun tweet where local well-known cyclist rips them out of the pavement with his bare hands. https:…

> Nobody who has ever used a bicycle would choose them but they keep showing up anyway.

It's probably a safe bet that, in many municipalities, the city planners see cyclists as a nuisance and are solely interested in doing what (they think) will shut them up. They also might see normal looking bike racks as an eyesore, hence sloppy installations combined with useless designs.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

#44

In my car-centric city (southeast USA, population ~125k) when I visit private property with no bicycle parking, I try to find the owner and offer to install one of these just for the cost of materials. The idea being, they can put in another one when they see more than one customer on a bicycle at the same time. It's very cheap, less than 100 bucks typically as I have the requisite tools in my garage to make them fro…

If I was an owner, I'd have a lot of problems with this just because I'd be worried there'd be some regulation I was violating that would get me fined.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

#45
In general, the author is right, and the simple design is by far the best. But the classic Sheffield stand with a circular cross section can be easily cut with a pipe cutter. Contrary to an angle grinder, a pipe cutter doesn't make any noise. Thus, the design has been improved by making it solid instead of hollow and giving it a rectangular cross section, like [1]. I used to hate the improved design because it's obviously less friendly to a nice bike's paint job until I learned the reasoning behind it.

[1] https://www.thieme-stadtmobiliar.com/de/produkte/fahrradstae...

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

#46

While the overall point of simple racks being better definitely stands, the premise that a bike needs two locks is just silly and impractical. Get wheel locks for your bikes - pinhead, hexlox (my favorite), etc. If your wheels are secured to the frame you just need to lock the frame with one lock/chain. Takes way less time to park and you dont need to lug multiple 5lb locks (unfortunately thats how heavy secure locks…

Pitlock are nice. The day I lost my Pinhead key and opened one with a flathead and a hammer in less than a minute was a little sobering. They’re still better than a quick release.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

#47

In my car-centric city (southeast USA, population ~125k) when I visit private property with no bicycle parking, I try to find the owner and offer to install one of these just for the cost of materials. The idea being, they can put in another one when they see more than one customer on a bicycle at the same time. It's very cheap, less than 100 bucks typically as I have the requisite tools in my garage to make them fro…

all you need is a pipe bender, right?

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

#48
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't work for many bicycle geometries[1]. Small vs large frames, small vs large wheels, wide vs narrow tyres, tricycles, tandem bikes, cargo bikes, recumbent bikes, hand-cranked bikes etc. Also if they are too finicky about the exact way you lock the bike (particular orientation, particular lock-point) it can be hard to make it work when there are obstacles (such as other bikes). The Sheffield stand makes the f…

You're supposed to fix the frame to the stand, why are you just attaching the wheel? Wheel "grabbers" (usually just called 'fietsenrek') are pretty common in the Netherlands, especially the 2 level ones, because they allow the greatest number of bikes in a small area. This does have some downsides obviously, but in the Netherlands 'largest number of bikes' tends to outweigh other concerns.

I don't know about the Netherlands, however here in Flanders the two level racks might be common but I think I've never seen a bike on the higher level. They're just used double spaced, with bikes only on the lower hoops. When they're (half-)full people just put their bikes next to the racks.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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post #40

This is a very angry person. He claims he's going to explain why the alternatives are crap. The first he starts off OK. I've never seen this specific design, but fine, you can't securely lock your bike. No explanation on what "securely" means (presumably at least two locks, one through each wheel) He talks about "wheel benders", but doesn't explain what makes them deserve such a name. It goes downhill from there. Num…

They’re called wheel benders because they bend wheels. Bicycle wheels are strong in the direction of ordinary load, but relatively fragile being pushed from the side. In that kind of rack, it’s very easy to apply force to the side of the wheel, because that is the only contact point keeping it upright.

Re: In praise of the humble Sheffield stand

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In my car-centric city (southeast USA, population ~125k) when I visit private property with no bicycle parking, I try to find the owner and offer to install one of these just for the cost of materials. The idea being, they can put in another one when they see more than one customer on a bicycle at the same time. It's very cheap, less than 100 bucks typically as I have the requisite tools in my garage to make them fro…

If I was an owner, I'd have a lot of problems with this just because I'd be worried there'd be some regulation I was violating that would get me fined.

If it's on the owner's property, it's probably kosher. Many cities have rules about the proximity of bike racks/stands to fire hydrants, parking meters, etc., but those generally concern public sidewalks.

I say probably because, knowing this country, I am positive someone can find a municipality that bans storeowners from putting bike stands on their property.

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