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Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

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It's possible that the TOS message is boilerplate that they put up when they haven't created (and localized) an appropriate message for the real reason (or they don't want to reveal the real reason). To me it sounds like maybe they detected a successful credential stuffing attack against the accounts and locked them. That said, it sounds like their recovery process leaves a lot to be desired.

I had a gaming-only Microsoft account locked in the same way and I can guarantee you there is no successful credential-stuffing attack against it (even the username was secret, as it was random and not used anywhere else). Locking accounts for "security reasons" and requiring a phone number is a common tactic to harvest phone numbers for "growth & engagement" reasons. Twitter does that since a while ago and recently…

>The security argument doesn't make sense because if they don't already have an existing phone number to compare to, they can't authenticate the newly-provided phone number

From a security standpoint, the point of requiring a phone number is to increase the expense of the request -- like a captcha.

(Not to say that there is a real security purpose in this specific case.)

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been 7+ years since Microsoft bought Minecraft, I'm honestly surprised it took this long for them to do this customer hostile stuff. We had a good 5 years before they started ruining it.

"Embrace, extend, extinguish"

I....don't see how that applies here.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

#93

> Microsoft that the account was locked due to activity on the account that 'violated their terms of service' What I dislike here most is that the explanation is probably a lie. If someone violated the rules then how providing a phone number can fix this? You are allowed to violate the rules if you leave a phone number? I remember a similar case. I registered email at outlook.com and after I tried to log in from slig…

They want a phone number to make sure you're not a spammer taking over the account.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

#94

I have a 13 year old minecraft account. I've been unable to migrate it because I don't have the transaction ID. I don't have the email (I wasn't very good at managing an inbox when I was 14), and the bank that it was bought with no longer exists, even if they had more than 7 years of records retention. I told support I can provide government IDs for myself and my father (the name on the card, presumably), but I got t…

If it's any consolation, Microsoft support for their business / enterprise / cloud services are equally as useless. I've had Azure support point the finger at the sole 3rd party vendor for one of their services only to have it pointed back at them. This didn't get solved until I put everyone and their managers in the same email.

You see, Karens know how to gets results...

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

#95

Is there an open Minecraft clone? Because this is getting kind of ridiculous…

Minecraft is the closed clone of the open Infiniminer IIRC. There are a ton of clones, but for a lot of people it's the social aspects. Putting my kids account on 'Xbox Games' (we don't have an Xbox, nor ever will I expect) for whatever bs reason we had to do that was a complete mess.

Right. I should have clarified further, an open/free clone that is available in the app stores and supports multiplayer.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

#97

Is there an open Minecraft clone? Because this is getting kind of ridiculous…

I'm sure there are plenty of cracked launchers around, and there is no ethical issue with using those if you already paid for the software once.

Those don’t work in the app stores (at least, not without jailbreaks, which is another exercise…)

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

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Can Minecraft be played without giving MS a Phone#? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30617884 - March 2022 (33 comments)

Mojang to Require a Microsoft Account to Play Minecraft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30515742 - March 2022 (143 comments)

Last call to voluntarily migrate Java accounts - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30278313 - Feb 2022 (105 comments)

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

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> About a month after doing the migration while signing in to one of the Microsoft accounts I was presented with a message from Microsoft that the account was locked due to activity on the account that 'violated their terms of service' despite no one using the account since the earlier migration.

I had to create XBox accounts for some PC games my kids were playing. Used unique email accounts on my own mail server. A week in got a message upon login that "Your email account was hacked" (verbatim) and then it demanded a phone number.

Fucking liars.

Re: Tell HN: Microsoft locks migrated Minecraft accounts, requires phone to unlock

#100

Due to Microsoft's disgusting behavior regarding forced migrations for children, Minecraft is no longer played in my household. That's really sad, too, since it was one of very few games my entire family enjoyed. It's also the game I have the most hours in. Good job, Microsoft.

Microsoft is involved in forced migration of children?
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