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Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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I frequently cannot log in to my bank with Firefox. The problem is that my bank's website was made by a bank, but as a Firefox user this impacts me in my daily life.

have you considered telling your bank about the issue? it's not like they did this maliciously to worsen your experience as Firefox user?

Sure. This has happened before and they do eventually fix it. Then a different problem might happen on another page a few months later, and this'll last a few weeks.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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“It will be free upfront; the team is looking at developing premium subscription features for enterprise users, perhaps somewhere around $12 a month, echoing the freemium model of Slack Technologies Inc., Dropbox Inc., and other productivity services.” Good luck with that. The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it. If it’s open source then it will be ridiculed for not having an op…

> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…

> The Enterprise™ spends a lot of money on (often dubious) security products

> a browser with built-in security features (both against malware and other features such as DLP, blocking/filtering/monitoring without middleboxes)

It'll be hard to outdo Google at security research and hardening

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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“It will be free upfront; the team is looking at developing premium subscription features for enterprise users, perhaps somewhere around $12 a month, echoing the freemium model of Slack Technologies Inc., Dropbox Inc., and other productivity services.” Good luck with that. The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it. If it’s open source then it will be ridiculed for not having an op…

> I’m all for an open/free/libre browser that isn’t WebKit. I believe it’s naive to think you can change the existing web experience with a browser alone.

(Probably today you mean Blink?)

This browser, like most "new" and "shiny" browsers today are just using embedded chrome and then put their own UX on top, calling it a new browser. Before, we'd call it a "browser shell" or something like that, but seemingly companies like this can launch with misleading wording and no one seems to notice it.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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How is this unknown company a challenger? How is this even worthy of Bloomberg to report on

A lot of stuff you see in Bloomberg (and elsewhere) either gets paid to be put there (some via agencies that specializes in things like that), or put on there via connections. They are not reporting on underdogs for the fun of it.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…

> The Enterprise™ spends a lot of money on (often dubious) security products > a browser with built-in security features (both against malware and other features such as DLP, blocking/filtering/monitoring without middleboxes) It'll be hard to outdo Google at security research and hardening

Last month Google announced 30 new security including critical vulnerabilities in chrome.

They might be doing a great job at hardening, but they don’t have a great reputation.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Which issues do Firefox fail to solve?

I frequently cannot log in to my bank with Firefox. The problem is that my bank's website was made by a bank, but as a Firefox user this impacts me in my daily life.

Probably best solved by changing banks... firefox works just fine with the ~4 banks I currently use. Though the situation is probably worse on the usa-side of the pond.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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> The Enterprise™ spends a lot of money on (often dubious) security products > a browser with built-in security features (both against malware and other features such as DLP, blocking/filtering/monitoring without middleboxes) It'll be hard to outdo Google at security research and hardening

Last month Google announced 30 new security including critical vulnerabilities in chrome. They might be doing a great job at hardening, but they don’t have a great reputation.

What is that supposed to say about reputation?

It's the most popular browser by far, and they actually do have a very publicized team that reports bugs to not just Chrome, but Apple and Mozilla as well. In my circles this is well respected, and personally, it inspires more confidence in the infrastructure around Chrome to me. I'd be wary of any "new" browser engines in unsafe languages.

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