so just bloatware bells and whistles
Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…
Which issues do Firefox fail to solve?
I frequently cannot log in to my bank with Firefox.
The problem is that my bank's website was made by a bank, but as a Firefox user this impacts me in my daily life.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#23so just bloatware bells and whistles
From the description, it actually reminds me of Internet Explorer toolbars in terms of functionality, which were quite common bloatware.
I don't disagree that there's new interesting features that can go into browsers (like Safari's OCR), but a browsers are kind of an important type of software, we gotta be a bit more careful with bloat.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#24Is there any reason that they couldn't build this ui on top of chrome? I've seen quite a lot of chrome based browsers with interesting uis
a ui on top of chrome doesn't get you $25 million in funding and a dedicated Bloomberg article edit: apparently it does
I'd expect the opposite. It's likely not worth funding someone to reimplement a whole browser engine instead of reusing an existing one. It would take a lot of time and money to build and maintain and you don't gain too much by having your own entirely custom engine.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#25It's hard to read articles with this unabashed of a tone, feels like much of the company's own claims are uncritically re-printed.
As they say, if no one in the article is mad that it's printed, it's PR, not news
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#26In my opinion, they don't seem to solve the browser tab problem, just iterate on it.
Just remove them completely and let you window manager manage your windows.
(And yes, Firefox still supports browsing without tabs, so we got what we need right there ;)
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…
Which issues do Firefox fail to solve?
Not only Mozilla's privacy claims are smoke and mirrors (you need uBlock Origin to get any reasonable privacy on the web today - why is it not included by default despite being permissively licensed?), they have opt-out telemetry (in breach of the GDPR), the browser will load a page with Google Analytics on first run and will nag you with bullshit on nearly every update (and it updates often) not to mention change the UI all the time for no good reason.
Firefox is the most user-hostile free & open-source software that I know of, and more hostile than a lot of paid, proprietary software.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#28Is there any reason that they couldn't build this ui on top of chrome? I've seen quite a lot of chrome based browsers with interesting uis
Im a beta tester for this product and it does use Chromium under the hood, pre-bundled with uBlock no less.
Well then it doesn't seem so groundbreaking then
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which issues do Firefox fail to solve?
I frequently cannot log in to my bank with Firefox. The problem is that my bank's website was made by a bank, but as a Firefox user this impacts me in my daily life.
How would this be solved by an up and coming browser that isn’t based off Blink/Chromium and why can’t Firefox do the solution?
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I frequently cannot log in to my bank with Firefox. The problem is that my bank's website was made by a bank, but as a Firefox user this impacts me in my daily life.
How would this be solved by an up and coming browser that isn’t based off Blink/Chromium and why can’t Firefox do the solution?
Firefox's problem is the company behind it, not the rendering engine. Firefox is actually a pretty fine browser if you pair it with uBlock Origin and neuter its wide range of user-hostile "features" and keep maintaining that as updates often introduce new "features" you'll need to disable.