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Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Re: Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Post by KennyBlanken »

_huayra_ wrote: post #30

How ready is Linux (or a BSD; I'm willing to learn!) for home server use? I understand there will be some growing pains for ARM chips as they venture into server land; the x86 ecosystem with a bazillion different motherboard / component options is much, MUCH further ahead. What about Docker or kubernetes? How about kvm / libvirt? Are they ready to rock on ARM? Having a few (mostly idle) x86_64 home servers consuming…

It took you easily ten times longer to write that comment than it would have Googling It.

Re: Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Post by bpye »

happycube wrote: post #7
trsohmers wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you bring up NVIDIA, unless you don’t know that the ARM acquisition was cancelled.

They've got their own ARM server chip coming out anyhow.

Availability of their existing dev kits is at best spotty. The AGX Orin [0] dev kit is at least available for backorder at $2k USD - but I haven't seen any of the Xavier kits available for many many months...

[0] - https://www.arrow.com/en/products/945-13730-0000-000/nvidia

Re: Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Post by rwmj »

_huayra_ wrote: post #30

How ready is Linux (or a BSD; I'm willing to learn!) for home server use? I understand there will be some growing pains for ARM chips as they venture into server land; the x86 ecosystem with a bazillion different motherboard / component options is much, MUCH further ahead. What about Docker or kubernetes? How about kvm / libvirt? Are they ready to rock on ARM? Having a few (mostly idle) x86_64 home servers consuming…

I have an RPi 4 8GB running Fedora, and everything works fine, including running virtual machines with KVM & libvirt. Small VMs, given the limited memory. The whole thing cost me £238 (actually under £200 because I could reuse one of the SSDs).

https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/09/24/raspberry-pi-4-running...

Re: Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Post by matthews2 »

Marat_Dukhan wrote: post #25
b0g0n wrote: post #23

> The fact is that the x86 cores have focused so much on performance per core, largely due to per-core licensing costs that dwarf CPU hardware costs, that it has led to a window for a cloud-native processor segment designed to provide the correct level of performance per core tied to cloud vCPUs, but then offer massive numbers of cores. Why is the x86 core count related to the per-core licensing costs?

IMO the author alludes to some enterprise software running on Wintel that has per-core licensing costs.

Oracle database and some VMware products have per-core licensing.

Re: Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Post by Wuzado »

jacooper wrote: post #26

Cheap ARM server(other than free Oracle cloud) are coming! hetzner has signed a deal with Ampere. https://www.hetzner.com/presse-berichte/2022/03/167137 however, after using Oracle free tier, I was surprised at the amount of stuff like Docker images that don't support ARM, a lot of images hat to be built manually(GH actions did that for me) or had source images which had x86 binaries!(looking at you bitnami) in the e…

Technically speaking you could already rent Mac M1 Minis. Really hyped about proper ARM servers based on Ampere, though!

Re: Ampere Announces 5nm Arm Server CPU

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Post by my123 »

bpye wrote: post #32
happycube wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've got their own ARM server chip coming out anyhow.

Availability of their existing dev kits is at best spotty. The AGX Orin [0] dev kit is at least available for backorder at $2k USD - but I haven't seen any of the Xavier kits available for many many months... [0] - https://www.arrow.com/en/products/945-13730-0000-000/nvidia

Yeah - strong supply constraints right now - side effect of what happened with GPUs... in the first half of 2020 Xavier devkits were very easy to buy at MSRP.

We'll see what happens...

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