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Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by Xeoncross »

robertlagrant wrote: post #57
Xeoncross wrote: post #56

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This is a great gift to the community, but I really wish it would be hosted where the community is active. It seems like a lot of people will miss out because they won't be able to discover this. I find a lot of projects because I follow people on github that star or fork really neat projects. I download projects from bitbucket, gitlab, and other self-hosted instances. I don't know that I've ever contributed a PR bac…

Thinking that a community lives in a git provider is a bad idea. It shouldn't matter who hosts a git instance, and I would argue it's better to fight for diversity here.

It might be better to fight for diversity, but I was pointing out the actuality of it all. Networks effects are real, and this isn't the project I want to see die because of it.

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by t-3 »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #22
ternaryoperator wrote: post #18

> I feel GitHub has taken an incredibly toxic turn with its emphasis on social features This the first time I've seen this view of GitHub, and I'm struggling to figure out what specifically he's referring to.

Seconded. GitHub's social features are undeniable (why distribute a VCS if not to make it more social?), but I'm curious about the toxicity.

Distributed version control is about making code and patches easier to share, if anything the point is to reduce the socialization. It's a more convenient and development-centric form of mailing lists, not a more social version.

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by robertlagrant »

Xeoncross wrote: post #61
robertlagrant wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thinking that a community lives in a git provider is a bad idea. It shouldn't matter who hosts a git instance, and I would argue it's better to fight for diversity here.

It might be better to fight for diversity, but I was pointing out the actuality of it all. Networks effects are real, and this isn't the project I want to see die because of it.

I don't really understand this. Is there much more to it than a new login in terms of network effects?

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by semiquaver »

mssdvd wrote: post #25
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconded. GitHub's social features are undeniable (why distribute a VCS if not to make it more social?), but I'm curious about the toxicity.

I think things like the personalized timeline and comments reactions may be considered toxic by some people.

(Disclaimer: github employee speaking for myself)

Reactions are not really about fostering “social” aspects of code review and issue triage as much as they are to prevent the need for a build up of low effort “+1” style comments. I view them as a community management tool that OSS maintainers would be much worse off without.

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by Xeoncross »

robertlagrant wrote: post #63
Xeoncross wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be better to fight for diversity, but I was pointing out the actuality of it all. Networks effects are real, and this isn't the project I want to see die because of it.

I don't really understand this. Is there much more to it than a new login in terms of network effects?

So, github is the daily workflow for many people. You're in it, your around it, your using it. It's kind of the same as out-of-sight, out-of-mind.

If I want to, I can signup for yet another site and do git-things with this codebase, but I have to change my daily process to include a one-off change to a new location. There are real costs with this mental flow change.

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by robertlagrant »

Xeoncross wrote: post #65
robertlagrant wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand this. Is there much more to it than a new login in terms of network effects?

So, github is the daily workflow for many people. You're in it, your around it, your using it. It's kind of the same as out-of-sight, out-of-mind. If I want to, I can signup for yet another site and do git-things with this codebase, but I have to change my daily process to include a one-off change to a new location. There are real costs with this mental flow change.

I don't really see the downside. The providers seem pretty similar, and I can have more than one tab open on my browser.

But thanks for the explanation; I don't feel it myself but it's good to know!

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by slowbdotro »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #2

Actual announcement: https://memex.marginalia.nu/log/58-marginalia-open-source.gm... My gitea instance is on a poor Raspberry Pi, probably won't survive HN front page :P

If you want, come mirror it on my gitea instance: gitea.slowb.ro. I'd be happy to take the load ^-^

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by SahAssar »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #51
SahAssar wrote: post #50

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What sort of sizes are we talking about? I'm thinking if it would be possible to "crowdfund" the storage-costs for a requester-pays s3 bucket for it.

I'm probably producing around 250-500 Gb data/month at this point.

What's the cumulative size for the index to date? I'm not rich by any measure, but if it's within reach I'd probably fund the storage costs.

Re: Marginalia Goes Open Source

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Post by metadat »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #22
ternaryoperator wrote: post #18

> I feel GitHub has taken an incredibly toxic turn with its emphasis on social features This the first time I've seen this view of GitHub, and I'm struggling to figure out what specifically he's referring to.

Seconded. GitHub's social features are undeniable (why distribute a VCS if not to make it more social?), but I'm curious about the toxicity.

The GitHub UI forces their view of the world and their development flow on you.

It doesn't bother me personally, but perhaps I've already been indoctrinated over the past ten years.

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