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GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by sodality2 »

temp8964 wrote: post #326
sodality2 wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What can Jeff Bezos do more positive than creating Amazon? Donating

LoL. Where does he donate hundred billions to can create something like Amazon? The federal government spend 10billions every day.

Maybe it's not about "creating something like Amazon" but rather helping people. There's more to "positive creations" than companies, in fact, if you asked a random person to rank "making Amazon" or "donating to charity" in terms of positivity, 9/10 would choose charity..

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by cube00 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #319
cube00 wrote: post #62

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Even countries with universal health care have private hospitals, they'll take your money. One near me asks you to consider paying for their services out of your retirement funds if you don't have private health insurance.

Not true in Canada. Or the UK.

It exists in the UK [1]

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_medicine_in_the_United...

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by hongsy »

usednet wrote: post #32
paulgb wrote: post #6

I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza. Bizarre.

Its definitely a cultural thing. The task would be extremely easy in any Indian city, but they probably don’t realize it would be near impossible in the West. Same with task 3, it would bankrupt Americans to pay for somebody else’s medical bills.

Why is it impossible in the West? (I don't stay in the West)

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by hongsy »

mlindner wrote: post #43

This thing was written by someone who doesn't live in a developed country... There's no way to do those actions in a developed country. Does this person think that just random children are available to be given food to?

I stay in a developed country (Singapore) and random children are available to be given food to.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by temp8964 »

sodality2 wrote: post #331
temp8964 wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LoL. Where does he donate hundred billions to can create something like Amazon? The federal government spend 10billions every day.

Maybe it's not about "creating something like Amazon" but rather helping people. There's more to "positive creations" than companies, in fact, if you asked a random person to rank "making Amazon" or "donating to charity" in terms of positivity, 9/10 would choose charity..

Creating Amazon is helping people, billions of people. If you don't understand this, this discussion is pointless. Let's just forget about it.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by DarylZero »

9873259735609 wrote: post #290
DarylZero wrote: post #275

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Enacting property rights over those natural resources is the initial act of coercion that makes trade possible. Merely using resources isn't coercion but it doesn't "result in property" unless you also apply coercion to exclude others from them. (Seems like a pointless word game you're trying to play here.)

I'm not advocating for property rights over natural resources. I'm advocating for property rights over artificial objects created by labour applied to natural resources.

Whatever you want to call it, you need coercion to enforce the exclusivity.

That's a difference between physical objects and trading pure labor itself (like the trading foot massages example).

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by DarylZero »

exabrial wrote: post #298
DarylZero wrote: post #284

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It's very unrealistic, one might say childishly naive, to assume that this is how income is distributed.

They have a word for that: Slavery.

Of course, you wouldn't have such ideas in your head in the first place, if you were capable of listening to other people.

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Post by seanhunter »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #96
seanhunter wrote: post #52

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There are charities who accept donations in crypto. We donated future royalties on secondary sales for some of the things we did at SXSW to Action against hunger for one example.

Charities will "accept" nearly anything because turning down donations is bad publicity and people barely need a reason at all to turn on a charity. They don't want it though and will offload it as cheaply as possible. Often this is a minor cost center for some charities lol.

If you say so. That certainly didn't seem the case for the charities we spoke with when we did our research. Quite a few were not set up to do this, but the ones we chose did seem to want the donations.

That said, that's orthogonal to the point. The GP said charities could set up crypto wallets to accept donations and as I pointed out, some already have.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by inglor_cz »

thematrixturtle wrote: post #320
iepathos wrote: post #314

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There is no requirement to "pickup" any children. Easiest way to accomplish task 2 is to wait outside a pizza hut or kfc and ask families coming in if it's ok if you pay for their meal and take some photos to help with your situation. You can explain your situation to people if there are any questions and pretty much everyone will be happy to accept a free meal for your good deed. Free money with no strings is accept…

Only problem is, Pizza Hut etc are middle class plus in India, so any family going in will by definition not be the poor people the ransomware is trying to assist.

Yeah, the class differences are interesting. In the US, fast food is something that a lot of poor people rely on and the meals are cheap there.

When I grew up in early post-Communist Czechoslovakia, McDonalds was where the richer kids went and later bragged about. The menu used to be too pricey for a random Czech.

These days, fast food is comparably cheaper than it used to be, but still relatively expensive for the poorest fifth of the population. As long as someone poor can cook, they are better off cooking at home and only going to fast food restaurants on holidays or so.

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