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Re: Ask HN: Best book on modern cryptography?

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>> dated, a little wrong about some things, but not insane (like _Applied Cryptography_ is). Why is "Applied Cryptography" insane? As an interested bystander, I'm curious to know more.

Yoink! https://sockpuppet.org/blog/2013/07/22/applied-practical-cry...

You have to actually read all of _Applied Cryptography_ before it becomes obvious what the central theme is. Its a big book, but unlike other may big computer books over the years it isn't padded. It's literally a compendium of crypto.

Including all the failed crypto. By the end of it, you've got used to reading the (usually very impressive) credentials of the researchers, and through explanation of what they did, and then how it all fell apart after a few years of attacks. If read about how people far clever than you got it wrong over and over again, it is near impossible to come away without the impression "here be dragons - really big and mean ones", and the corollary "don't even think of trying to do this stuff yourself - just stuff on the shelf that has been proven over time".

Re: Ask HN: Best book on modern cryptography?

#45
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yoink! https://sockpuppet.org/blog/2013/07/22/applied-practical-cry...

You have to actually read all of _Applied Cryptography_ before it becomes obvious what the central theme is. Its a big book, but unlike other may big computer books over the years it isn't padded. It's literally a compendium of crypto. Including all the failed crypto. By the end of it, you've got used to reading the (usually very impressive) credentials of the researchers, and through explanation of what they did, an…

It depends on whether descriptions of things you should never, ever do, without any explanation of whether or not you should do them, count for you as "padding".
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