What would a recession mean for developers?

Post by mandeepj » Sat, May 28, 2022, 7:33 AM UTC

cabraca wrote: post #35

advael wrote: post #8

The weird part of this advice to me is all the "CS fundamentals" biz. It's admittedly been quite a while since I've felt the need to go out for "junior" roles, but I have a lot of close friends who are recent boot camp grads, and it seems to me that most success in an interview boils down to interpersonal skills and confidence in problem-solving. There's a significant backlash at least in the startup space to "whiteb…

You're not wrong. I mentor some juniors and the ability to talk to a specific target audience about a topic is the most important skill a dev can have. I can teach you the tech stack, but i cant teach you how to talk to the business people or the finance department. "I need budget to rewrite that app in rust" will get you a no from the finance guys most of the time. Tell them that it would reduce your current infrast…

Post by kmeraz » Sat, May 28, 2022, 7:43 AM UTC

RyanOD wrote: post #17

I'm someone who qualifies as a junior developer even though I have a minor in CS, a BS in math, and a BS in mechanical engineering. My career has been an interesting journey. I've worked in sales, taught high school mathematic and computer science, and led technical SEO for multiple successful startups. I left all that in January to pursue my dream of becoming a full-time frontend developer. My wife and I have two da…

Post by cabraca » Sat, May 28, 2022, 7:57 AM UTC

mandeepj wrote: post #41

cabraca wrote: post #35

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You're not wrong. I mentor some juniors and the ability to talk to a specific target audience about a topic is the most important skill a dev can have. I can teach you the tech stack, but i cant teach you how to talk to the business people or the finance department. "I need budget to rewrite that app in rust" will get you a no from the finance guys most of the time. Tell them that it would reduce your current infrast…

> I mentor some juniors and the ability to talk to a specific target audience about a topic is the most important skill a dev can have. Sure, it comes with experience and lessons learnt. But, I don't think a junior dev would straight talk to finance guys for money. They would have support from his own tribe in some form (PM/Manager/Director). Nonetheless, you are making a good point. In sprint demos, I make sure my t…

Post by bigDinosaur » Sat, May 28, 2022, 8:04 AM UTC

exdsq wrote: post #44

advael wrote: post #8

The weird part of this advice to me is all the "CS fundamentals" biz. It's admittedly been quite a while since I've felt the need to go out for "junior" roles, but I have a lot of close friends who are recent boot camp grads, and it seems to me that most success in an interview boils down to interpersonal skills and confidence in problem-solving. There's a significant backlash at least in the startup space to "whiteb…

Some startups are still requiring weird whiteboard questions sadly. Interviewed for a role recently and was asked to navigate a maze of obstacles and teleports with possible infinite loops, saying the minimum number of steps to leave the maze if it’s possible. That was for a test engineering role so… WTF.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 28, 2022, 8:08 AM UTC

Silhouette wrote: post #34

TavsiE9s wrote: post #26

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I’ve heard the whole “money can’t be everything when deciding on a job” a couple of times when discussing salaries recently. Mostly from companies who realise they can’t or don’t want to compete with the market. Shrug and move on. They’ll learn eventually.

Money is at least understandable. It is a finite resource after all. What I really don't get is employers who are still pushing for other conditions that will deter good people from applying - things like annoying processes or insisting on hybrid working instead of allowing fully remote if there is no clear benefit to those policies.