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Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#41

it sounds like a pretty awesome idea, but lithium ion battery powered, with wi-fi and bright LCD? i'd rather not have to remember to change the batteries in my thermostat every couple of days.

A mechanical thermostat (like the round ones) is just a switch i.e. not powered. To retrofit one of these with an electronic version you need batteries because there isn't a completed circuit to run it when the heat/AC is "Off". When the heat/AC is "On" you could recharge them.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#42
Great example of taking on an existing market that needs an injection of innovation. Programmable thermostats are easy to install (I installed mine years ago) and can save you lots of money if used properly, but their UIs are terrible. Lots of buttons and inherently unintuitive. I'm surprised I remember how to reset the filter replacement alert.

There is a market need certainly, but is their target market big enough to support the business? I think if you can encourage users to adopt these based on the cost savings then the odds will be better. Lots of home owners will be interested in saving money on their utility bills. Just make sure the UI and features enable users to make efficient use of their HVAC systems. There will definitely have to be a campaign to educate consumers as to why they need this product.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#44
post #14

This is brilliant. This is the kind of innovation that we should idolize. I feel like we tend to get excited about things like Facebook, Foursquare, Instagram or Color, if it combines all the right buzzwords like social, mobile and photos. We tend to forget what real innovation is. Well, this is it. You're taking a boring, underserved segment of the market and revolutionizing it. And guess what, the potential for soc…

>His goal is to take something we never think about and make it more than just sexy– he wants to make it a “beloved” object in the home.

Call me cynical, but it doesn't sound like innovation, it sounds like hype. I have a programmable thermostat, and it turns off and on based on a temperature schedule. I mess with it four times a year: twice to change the time zone and once to turn it to "Air Conditioning" and once to turn it to "Heat." Now, do I think you can do something clever with it? Sure. How about an interface on my phone or tablet to replace the wimpy LCD screen, the fiddly plastic buttons, and the page of directions. Oh, and if the new thermostat was "smart" and saved me (potentially lots of) money? Even better.

But "beloved"? Not a chance.

Also, is there room to the thing to add "automatic lighting" and appliance control (dishwasher, washer/dryer)? Mmmaybe. But frankly, that could be done by wifi/bluetooth on the appliance and an app as well.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#47

it sounds like a pretty awesome idea, but lithium ion battery powered, with wi-fi and bright LCD? i'd rather not have to remember to change the batteries in my thermostat every couple of days.

Lithium/ion batteries are (very good) rechargeable cells, the expectation should be to recharge them. As others have pointed out, it seems it does this whenever it has power.

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#48
post #19

There's some negativity here, but I have to say I'm impressed. This is a nice bit of low hanging fruit for a segway into smarter home technology, something we've been promised for ages but which has consistently failed to deliver IMHO. Add in the green factor and I think this has the potential to be a pretty damn good business with plenty of room for future product growth.

I was thinking about that. The power of the iPod, in retrospect, was getting an entertainment device into every pocket as much as it was being a good MP3 player. It was truly the Minimum Viable Product of the current-gen iPod Touches/iPhones.

Who's to say this isn't the same thing with smart homes?

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#49
post #2

The startup is Nest Labs. Their product is an adaptive thermostat that learns your temperature preferences and schedule. It's much cooler (ha ha) than it sounds! http://www.nest.com/living-with-nest/index.html What I want to know: who are these people in their demo videos setting their thermostat to 80+ (Fahrenheit) degrees?!

During the summer we've been, year by year, increasing our temperature by a degree to save on air conditioning costs, this past summer our thermostat was at 79/80 degrees.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#50

I'm wondering about the installation part. It doesn't seem to me that the average user is just doing to go grab one and get it in himself. I made my own computerized replacement for the thermostat in my house(1) and discovered that there were about 5 different possible wiring patterns depending on if you've got heat pumps, multi-stage, e-heat, gas, etc. After much research I figured out how they are wired, how my hou…

Your experience is highly atypical in most of the US.

The common setup is a single-stage heat/cool installation with 4 color-coded wires.

It's all low-voltage (24VAC) and the biggest problem most people run into is an older 2-wire setup (single-stage heat only), where the programmable thermostat can't be vampire powered from the circuit and either cuts out when it clicks the relay on to fire the furnace, or simply needs to be a battery-powered unit.

With all the eco-stuff and increased heating costs, installation of programmable thermostats by low-skilled homeowners is actually pretty common.

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