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It seems to be a link to an archived site because the original comment has been retracted by the author.
Source? What’s the reason for given for the retraction?
Direct link:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203
The allegations have been retracted.
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I have the same experience, for me it works flawlessly with the bridge, but the bridge itself is a complication. I would prefer a straight imap option (in addition to the bridge option). My 2c.
But then you wouldn't have E2EE anymore, and that's kind of their flagship feature. I'm very happy with the Bridge integrated with Neomutt on Fedora Linux.
I think Protonmail started with a privacy-focused business case (for which E2EE is a key feature), but is now expanding into the broader pool of people who want to pay for an ad-free, no-data-scanning email, but are not concerned about targeted spying and prefer the simplicity of a convenient setup. For that crowd, IMAP would make more sense. My 2c.
Asserting "private email" is a modern litmus test for someone's technical understanding and capabilities, or lack thereof. Snake oil companies will always hide behind "it's encrypted" and "it's hosted in Switzerland" tropes that mean nothing to anyone who has done a modicum of research. Real privacy is not the result of some product, especially not when its so desperately and obviously shilled.
How can I learn more about privacy online. It seems to me that the only private email would be no email.
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There is a silent backlash against Proton, the most obvious is the domain is blocked by the US Antivirus company who scans all UK politicians emails through the UK parliament email address parliament.uk or British politicians are ignoring their constituents, some website contact forms reject protonmail email address as well. So I hope they give Google a run for their money. Edit IF its not politicians ignoring emails…
I've definitely blocked protonmail domains before. The calculus is that 100% of the accounts from that domain are fraud and 0% are legitimate, so it just saves a lot of time to block it. Stops fraud before it even starts. This is, of course, annoying for the 1 legitimate customer mixed in with the billions of bots. But basically, they have an abuse problem that they need to solve. Gmail also has plenty of fraudulent…
I had similar issues with signups from Proton. I use the service myself so I didn't want to block it at the domain level, I hope they address this soon.
Asserting "private email" is a modern litmus test for someone's technical understanding and capabilities, or lack thereof. Snake oil companies will always hide behind "it's encrypted" and "it's hosted in Switzerland" tropes that mean nothing to anyone who has done a modicum of research. Real privacy is not the result of some product, especially not when its so desperately and obviously shilled.
Are you suggesting that because the only way to have truly private email (in the U.S. at least), is to own the server hardware, the property it's colocated on, and the Internet connection. Because this is true, but not helpful.
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MAGMA is still a better acronym
Using Google and Meta in the acronym sounds wrong. I'd rather MAAMA or MAGFA.
I'd wager if you scraped most news publications you'd see Meta used across the board, Google used in most cases and a few cases where the writer uses "Alphabet, Google's parent company..." (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3503534-activists-work...) which IMHO just proves the point I'm trying to make
For the perfect exhibit, look no further than this Tech Crunch article with the headline "Meta and Google's Gradient..." https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/26/meta-and-google-gradient-i...
Proton is not perfect, but nothing is. We need more competition on the internet, and if Proton has a chance to provide an email and storage for an upfront price without trying to distract me with ads or pimp my data to advertisers, I want to support them. As a data point, I have been a very happy user of their plus service for the last 3 years.
The only thing that bugs me with Proton is that it's still very complicated to integrate with thunderbird (or any mail app?), which makes it practically unusable for my needs. Having a tab always open in my browser for my mail seems so wrong.
The problem with Proton email is that is full of fraudulent accounts this they domain and emails send via proton are blocked by many companies, ISPs and firewalls. I tried it and it was unable to send email to my wife’s work. In short alot of dickheads use it for spam/scam and ruin it for the rest of us. I do not know how they can overcome that…
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> Work: https://pachyderm.com/ Well, I know what I'm not using if I ever have a need for an ML pipeline.
Yeah, that's fine. If you want to spend 20,000 hours rewriting our 100% open-source product from scratch because we used to have a hosted offering that was overrun by fraud and I made a rash decision in the middle of the night, feel free! Recommend just downloading the source from Github though and using our work for free. That is absolutely the best way to stick it to me for sharing my thought process on HN. (Use th…
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Are you suggesting that because the only way to have truly private email (in the U.S. at least), is to own the server hardware, the property it's colocated on, and the Internet connection. Because this is true, but not helpful.
There isn't such a thing as "secure/private email" because its design was not conceived with such things even in mind. The "secure" solutions like Protonmail are something other than email, which is probably the way forward, but I wish it was done without twisting language giving others a false sense of security and understanding.