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Half a minute is a long time when you’re responding to an emergency.
Stating the obvious, but: 25 secs I agree that the difference (5 secs) most of the time isn't all that important. I just don't see the need to round up for no particular reason.
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From the article. > a San Francisco Fire Department truck responding to a fire tried to pass a doubled-parked garbage truck by using the opposing lane. a traveling autonomous vehicle (...) was blocking its path. While a human might have reversed to clear the lane, the Cruise car stayed put (......) Tiffany Testo, a spokesperson for Cruise, confirmed the incident. She said the driverless car had correctly yielded to t…
> I think the real issue here is a double parked garbage truck forcing the fire truck to go into oncoming traffic in the first place. Maybe there's a need for a loading only zone there so that the garbage truck doesn't have to block the travel lane. I disagree. Driverless vehicles NEED to be able to handle these unexpected situations in an appropriate manner. That they don't currently is in fact a "real issue" and in…
Personal opinion here, but I think defaulting to "stop and contact support staff" is as good of a "fix" as we will have for a long time. According to Cruise (so potentially biased) it took 25s for the firetruck to be able to move after the scenario was encountered, though the article says the garbage truck moved.
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Half a minute is a long time when you’re responding to an emergency.
Stating the obvious, but: 25 secs I agree that the difference (5 secs) most of the time isn't all that important. I just don't see the need to round up for no particular reason.
Long-term this seems like a very solvable problem given the ability to remotely operate the car.
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Stating the obvious, but: 25 secs I agree that the difference (5 secs) most of the time isn't all that important. I just don't see the need to round up for no particular reason.
Does your point appreciably change the meaning of the argument? Definietely not, even a 10-second delay is too long for emergencies. There are times where that five-second difference matters but I feel this falls into a bad-faith argument.
Doesn't excuse this at all but I've seen some pretty stupid human driver behaviors with emergency vehicles and blocking intersections in general. A rule that says don't pull into an intersection you will not be able to clear (!!) would solve a ton of issues.
We have that rule in Germany (§ 11(1) StVO). Believe me, it doesn’t help. Everyone ignores it and blocks the crossings nonetheless. It doesn’t get sanctioned anyways. §11 (1) StVO: https://dejure.org/gesetze/StVO/11.html
Like I don't think I've ever seen people driving on the sidewalk in an American city, but it's a constant in Berlin. During a recent fair (Neuköllner Maientage) we had tons of people driving into the park and just parking on trails, including right in front of benches. Even coming from another country with an aggressive, entitled car culture, that was breathtaking behavior.
Fire truck wants to use oncoming lane to overtake the double-parked garbage truck, autonomous car in that oncoming lane yields to the right to the extent allowed by more parked cars - but doesn't back up into the intersection to completely clear the lane.
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I feel like indicating to a human driver would take about as long as the 25 seconds the autonomous car took.
According to the article, the autonomous car didn't move, the garbage truck did.
The trend of autonomous cars is one of the things that I believe is not practical. Even the most sophisticated machine learning algorithm requires repetition and constant input to be optimized. But there is infinitely many variables when it comes to driving on a street level. Driving is intuitive on a city street. The scope of autonomous vehicles should be limited to places where there is clarity of transit and very…
This seems to warrant repeating every time this is brought up: It just needs to be 1% better than human drivers. If the net result is 1% less tragedies - sign me up. If it's better than the alternative, I'm in.
