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Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#31

You'd think a thermostat should be a trivial device. But you'd be amazed at the complexity people come up with for thermostats, including hundred page manuals, etc., and no way to turn the heat off.

I don't understand, why do we need a thermostat in house? Isn't the normal environmental temperature outside just good. Why artificially change it?

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#33

You'd think a thermostat should be a trivial device. But you'd be amazed at the complexity people come up with for thermostats, including hundred page manuals, etc., and no way to turn the heat off.

I don't understand, why do we need a thermostat in house? Isn't the normal environmental temperature outside just good. Why artificially change it?

The "normal environmental temperature outside" hasn't been good enough since the first caveman started a fire in his cave for warmth.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#34

You'd think a thermostat should be a trivial device. But you'd be amazed at the complexity people come up with for thermostats, including hundred page manuals, etc., and no way to turn the heat off.

I don't understand, why do we need a thermostat in house? Isn't the normal environmental temperature outside just good. Why artificially change it?

I don't know about California, but here in Poland it looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Poland#Climate

And those are the nice averages. Sometimes (more often than you'd guess) the temperature decides to drop to a nice −20C. In the same place, in the same year, temperature in summer can get to 30C.

I can easily agree that people over regulate temperature — 25C in winter or 20C in summer is probably not that optimal (I just don't do cooling, but offices do). But a lot of people live in areas where the outside temperature is just not an option.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#35

Very cool. I wonder if they will one day interface with your local weather as well (or if it already does). The entire product is non-obvious, but when they've gone this far, seems they'd take the extra step to see if it is going to be 75 outside, and you like it at 70, and it is currently 68, to not turn on the heater, but use the air-conditioner to keep things cool.

Their site lists all the ways that it learns and adapts here http://www.nest.com/inside-and-out/#learns - one of the ways uses the weather

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#36

From a business standpoint, it seems like Nest Labs will be spending a lot of their time explaining the reason their product is relevant to the consumer. The market is there, but like Tony said in the video, its at a contractor level. Rarely does a consumer decide they need to purchase a thermostat on their own. So if they're honestly planning to sell to consumers directly, they'll have to basically create a marketpl…

"Rarely does a consumer decide they need to purchase a thermostat on their own"

That may be because (until now?) there is little to differentiate thermostats.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#37

I assume its trivial for a device as advanced as this, but has anyone spotted if it supports Celsius? Not a big deal in an American market but i'd totally buy one for my home but we silly British people use the metric system.

it supports celsius

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#38
post #32

> He was shocked there wasn’t a single attractive thermostat on the market so he decided to build his own. This. I wish I had the balls to do the same!

Do you also have the necessary capital behind it? Hardware companies need a lot more financial investment.

Re: iPod godfather and ex-iPhone team launch previously stealth startup

#39
post #14

This is brilliant. This is the kind of innovation that we should idolize. I feel like we tend to get excited about things like Facebook, Foursquare, Instagram or Color, if it combines all the right buzzwords like social, mobile and photos. We tend to forget what real innovation is. Well, this is it. You're taking a boring, underserved segment of the market and revolutionizing it. And guess what, the potential for soc…

I would agree that it breathes life into a pretty neglected piece of equipment, but my concern would be that it isn't in any way entertaining, and the common element in the great innovations as of late have all catered to just that; keeping people entertained. Its defintely an exciting idea, but I just can't see anybody become truly taken with their thermostat.Perhaps its a jaded world view, but I feel that there is great demand for games and distractions, and not necessarily quality products or innovation. I can't help but consider that RIM is struggling for market share, and its largely been attributed to a lack of innovative games/apps.

I do agree that this product presents a greater benefit to the earth and humanity as a whole, but my concern is that the populous may not notice. Will enough people buy in to make this economically viable? I certainly hope so....

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