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GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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They are pen tested. Now same question, what happens when the ransomware infects a hospital?

Has happened before. Responsibility always lies on those who created the malware. But also on hospital IT if they didn't take precautions.

> But also on hospital IT

Hospital IT soaks in a special set of impossible choices.

Vendors lock them to insecure OSes and inflexible contracts. Regulations are equally inflexible. In general, security is in tension with providing patient care, especially in emergency situations. And all this stuff is super expensive, which means making do with old gear in a lot of places.

I am in no way defending incompetence. But the reality is grim.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza. Bizarre.

Its definitely a cultural thing. The task would be extremely easy in any Indian city, but they probably don’t realize it would be near impossible in the West. Same with task 3, it would bankrupt Americans to pay for somebody else’s medical bills.

It is completely insanity. It starts by assuming that the affected user has or could ever be available to have facesomething, instasomething and whasomething accounts,

and that said user could ever be convinced to open some,

and that said user could access them on a machine apart from the infected.

They are completely bonkers.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Take a video and post it to your social media account. So… what would someone like me who doesn’t have any social media accounts do?

They are assuming a completely made up reality where they mix up an invented target with all potential victims.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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>I’ve met tons of script kiddies over the years and none of them were concerned about employment. Your sample is probably biased in some way. I've met many who feel trapped in wage slavery, here in the USA.

agree. the freelancer / gig economy is dominate by script kiddie / template churner companies in India for whom $2/hr is a good wage. there's no competing with that

I love it when people come to me because their big spender investment in bottom dollar software they splurged for on fiver is failing and they're in panic mode. Like what did you expect performing an act of labor exploitation, a working machine? Loyalty?

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

#256

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They are pen tested. Now same question, what happens when the ransomware infects a hospital?

Has happened before. Responsibility always lies on those who created the malware. But also on hospital IT if they didn't take precautions.

Yea it’s not like a MRI machine you bought only uses Windows XP

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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This is probably obvious to anyone but there isn't anything "good" about this, I expected this to be something along the lines of a crypto donation to GiveDirectly but this is just a sick wannabe Blackmirror power play.

I can see a scenario in which a "chaotic good" hacker uses a customized form of ransomware on some large corporation or extremely wealthy person in order to force them to make a donation or do some majorly positive action for the world.¹ Pulling this off without going against the "good" qualification would require appropriately selecting the target and files to encrypt, and appropriately phrasing the demands made to…

> "do some majorly positive action for the world"

What can Jeff Bezos do more positive than creating Amazon?

What can Elon Musk do more positive than creating Tesla and SpaceX?

etc. etc.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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I was thinking the exact same thing, as former (and reformed) lightweight teen hacker. My motivations? Employment? More like for the sheer joy of discovery and fascination with working through ideas. And maybe the slightly sketchier teen hackers: lulz.

I just wanted to know what was out there, and most importantly what actual aliens looked like. I cringe now.

>I cringe now.

Why? They look that scary?

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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It's the specifics that give it away. "Take 5 poor children from your neighborhood to Pizza Hut." Screaming kids at Pizza Hut aside, we can't make other people have empathy. They have to find it and explore it themselves, perhaps by seeing others do the same. It's especially ironic that someone with lowered empathy would be demanding someone else show fake empathy publicly before giving them back control of their own…

wouldn't taking 5 poor kids to a pizza hut be an act of sympathy and not empathy?

I think the approach is clumsy and overly constrained, but I would hope the idea was that by being forced to actually interact with neighbors and their families it would increase social cohesion and empathy.

I don't think that's particularly incorrect, isolation from neighbors and the invisibility of the poor makes it a heck of a lot easier to ignore their problems.

I'm not sure in this case it's sympathy or empathy, it sounds like mere facilitation of the potential for future relationships and dialog between poor kids and people well enough off to own their own computer.

Imagining these hackers trying to individually determine whether someone has done a good enough job of pretending they're nice and whether a victim is themselves too poor to do this stuff... pretty amazing that they'd declare themselves the arbitrators of whether something is sufficiently repentant.

And posting it on social media? What, are we doxxing ourselves now to get out of ransomware attacks? I don't even have twitter or facebook or instagram or whatsapp... for good reason! Why make it performative, someone could just send them receipts if the goal was to help regardless of publicity.

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