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GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by Deritiod »

krzyk wrote: post #25
spicybright wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of treatments? How regularly?

Universal healthcare is well overrated in the US. From a country that had it, it usually means: ugly hospitals, sad faces, long queues for treatments (I mean wait time for "free" treatment can be well over a year). There is no free lunch. On the other hand, I usually can get my kid to doctor same day, while using private healthcare provider (paid by my employer) it is almost impossible, 2-3 days wait. On yet another…

Good for you that your employer pays for it.

I think universal healthcare is a social must and we need to fix it instead of talking it down.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by usednet »

paulgb wrote: post #6

I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza. Bizarre.

Its definitely a cultural thing. The task would be extremely easy in any Indian city, but they probably don’t realize it would be near impossible in the West. Same with task 3, it would bankrupt Americans to pay for somebody else’s medical bills.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by nvr219 »

t67576567567 wrote: post #9
paulgb wrote: post #6

I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza. Bizarre.

Quoted post unavailable.

Nobody gets arrested for buying pizza for a bunch of kids.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by Deritiod »

sacrosancty wrote: post #8
netsharc wrote: post #5

Hah, Black Mirror-esque. But well, hopefully it has a IP filter to not hit countries with universal healthcare. /s And asking stranger kids "Hey kids, want some KFC?"... that should go well. "The hacker 4chan made me do it!"

Even in countries with universal healthcare, people regularly can't afford treatment because expensive treatments aren't included.

In Germany my aunt gets expensive cancer treatment without extra pay.

Any specific you think about?

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by Hamuko »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #26
Hamuko wrote: post #23

Can I assume that the author of this ransomware is American or at least is very immersed in American culture? Because the activities listed sound very America-centric. I've never seen someone actually sleeping roadside in the cold, and since we have universal healthcare, I've also not heard of someone dying in the hospital because their loved ones couldn't gather up enough money. I guess I might as well just smash my…

> I've also not heard of someone dying in the hospital because their loved ones couldn't gather up enough money. It's more like "having to postpone treatment so long that it doesn't work." The same also applies if you have to fight with scheming insurance companies. The government, all of us, have most to gain from a healthy society. And a dead person couldn't care less about their health. It's about time our systems…

Well, the way that "activity" here is phrased, they kinda expect you to lurk in the nearest hospital for some kind of a medical emergency that can be solved with a bank transfer. The people postponing treatment probably aren't loitering in the hospital.

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by Hamuko »

nvr219 wrote: post #33
t67576567567 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

Nobody gets arrested for buying pizza for a bunch of kids.

Someone apparently got arrested for offering candy to kids though, so I wouldn't count on it.

https://www.shawlocal.com/2020/10/26/man-charged-with-disord...

Re: GoodWill ransomware forces victims to donate to the poor

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Post by reacharavindh »

krzyk wrote: post #25
spicybright wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of treatments? How regularly?

Universal healthcare is well overrated in the US. From a country that had it, it usually means: ugly hospitals, sad faces, long queues for treatments (I mean wait time for "free" treatment can be well over a year). There is no free lunch. On the other hand, I usually can get my kid to doctor same day, while using private healthcare provider (paid by my employer) it is almost impossible, 2-3 days wait. On yet another…

I think the right solution is the middle - private primary care and public chronic & advanced care. India does this but loses out on effectiveness because of capacity problems and simply the huge scale it needs to work at.

Primary care is provided by private doctors and hospitals, so it is almost like a business. Doctors offices have websites, and get reviews from general public. You choose where you go to. All health insurances cover almost all of them. The doctor's offices are "competing" to provide a good service - being clean, solving problems correctly, not charging too much etc.

The government spends what ever money it allocates for healthcare on Public hospitals that focus on expensive medical equipment(labs, diagnostic machines etc), and treating chronically ill patients.

In an ideal world, you go to private doctors to figure out what is wrong, and then use the public facility if you can wait, and get the surgery/medicine/treatment for free. Often times, the private doctor refers you to a public doctor with a specific note that says this person needs this particular surgery using this particular medical device.

However, this systems leaves a big hole in catering to the poor who cannot afford to go to a private doctor for primary care owing to costs. No system is perfect. I think this model has the most potential for better healthcare.

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