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I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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I think the FBI has a threshold amount to get involved. It wont move a finger for $50.

You’re missing the point. You don’t file the report in order to get the FBI to investigate. That obviously won’t happen. You file in order to establish a record of an allegation of a crime.

Then what?

You have “a record”. What does that get you?

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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post #107

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You’re missing the point. You don’t file the report in order to get the FBI to investigate. That obviously won’t happen. You file in order to establish a record of an allegation of a crime.

Then what? You have “a record”. What does that get you?

Then you go after Google as a coactor on the crime. As the OP's next paragraph says.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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I released Boltstream [0] for exactly this kind of thing. It's not a Youtube replacement. It's a self-hosted replacement for Youtube Live, Facebook Live, Twitch.tv, and alike. [0] https://github.com/benwilber/boltstream

Interesting, but why use this over peertube?

Some people prefer being in control of their hosting.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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post #111
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re missing the point. You don’t file the report in order to get the FBI to investigate. That obviously won’t happen. You file in order to establish a record of an allegation of a crime.

Then what? You have “a record”. What does that get you?

In legal cases, having contemporaneous supporting evidence can be important.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Creators don’t control where the audience is. If there was a credible alternative to the centralized services, then maybe more creators would try that. Nebula is one example where some of the more education-focused channels have been posting videos. Not sure if it’s been successful though.

I don't buy it. Creators make audiences, and platforms know this. Users have to take what they get, but producers have options. This is why YouTube hosts content for free, makes advertising and monetizing easy, works to lower the barriers to entry and make independence unnattractive. If creators switched to distributing through their own servers or a different CDN or IPFS or bittorrent or whatever, they would have to…

Tell that to Vessel & Quibi!

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Also allows for selective enforcement of the rules, which can be welcome for "not noticing" a particular account that generates a lot of profit for the platform.

Selective enforcement is actually literally tyrany - every tyranical organisation createa rules that are vague and ambiguous, so that anyone could be guilty, and undesierable people could be charged at any time convenient. Someone protesting? Charge them for brwaking the law fuve years ago that noone understands. Employee speaking out? Fire them for breaking company policy on something random, company policy that no-…

You are correct, but also all enforcement everywhere is selective. Even mindless speed / red light cameras (they are selected to be at certain corners and not others).

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Then what? You have “a record”. What does that get you?

Then you go after Google as a coactor on the crime. As the OP's next paragraph says.

You sue google?

This plan actually works?

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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First step, if you get a demand like that, file a police report. Extortion, and attempted extortion, are crimes. You can also file with the FBI online, which will at least result in your complaint being accumulated with other similar complaints. Not much may happen, but now it's on record. Now you have paperwork establishing a crime. If you're willing to spend legal fees, talk to a lawyer. You can potentially sue the…

This sounds interesting, but are you aware of anyone who has used this strategy with a major social network/content distribution platform and had success? Reading, I wonder if it's the sort of thing where Google’s lawyers could brush you off because companies that large are effectively immune.

I’m wondering the same.

Is this just a legal hypothetical that is nice to believe it would work?

Has anyone actually done this/ been successful? How much did it cost?

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Then what? You have “a record”. What does that get you?

In legal cases, having contemporaneous supporting evidence can be important.

Ok, but what is the next step? Take this guy’s Bitcoin wallet address to court?

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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First step, if you get a demand like that, file a police report. Extortion, and attempted extortion, are crimes. You can also file with the FBI online, which will at least result in your complaint being accumulated with other similar complaints. Not much may happen, but now it's on record. Now you have paperwork establishing a crime. If you're willing to spend legal fees, talk to a lawyer. You can potentially sue the…

This sounds interesting, but are you aware of anyone who has used this strategy with a major social network/content distribution platform and had success? Reading, I wonder if it's the sort of thing where Google’s lawyers could brush you off because companies that large are effectively immune.

Large companies definitely aren't immune from litigation over stuff like this. I sent Google a demand letter for breach of contract for wrongfully terminating my Adsense account.

In the letter I gave them 30 days to restore my account and pay the money they had wrongfully withheld. On the 30th day the account was restored and the money was paid.

Though I wrote the letter myself, I'd imagine anyone similarly situated could hire an attorney who practices contract law to write a similar letter for relatively low cost.

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