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I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

#21

While I definitely do sympathize, these might be alarm bells telling that we've given too much to these faceless corps. Maybe it's time to reimagine content sharing that has full uncensorable control of the creator and reach of today's centralized platforms, with a fair way to monetize.

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Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

#22

While I definitely do sympathize, these might be alarm bells telling that we've given too much to these faceless corps. Maybe it's time to reimagine content sharing that has full uncensorable control of the creator and reach of today's centralized platforms, with a fair way to monetize.

no man think of all the Wrong Kinds of Speech that such a thing would facilitate the mass transmission of!! that's not what the Internet is for! the Internet is only for safe, advertiser-friendly walled gardens of corporate-moderated content, algorithmically distributed to users based on their best interests (even if they don't know it yet)—nothing more—and it has always been this way, of course

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

#23
post #7

Yup. Make Youtube a "common carrier" or something similar.

I would encourage anyone who thinks along these lines to read the following posts on Techdirt, which explain why this is not the solution people think it is.

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/26/this-is-really-really-du...

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/23/11th-circuit-disagrees-w...

https://www.techdirt.com/2021/06/08/conservatives-want-commo...

Something should be done to ward off the Kafkaesque future we are heading for, but declaring websites as common carriers is a poor way to do it.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

#25

If I'm understanding the attack correctly, its surprising there is not more along these lines - specifically the "trigger big tech company's automate banning against someone" attack. It wouldn't be surprising if this is fairly easy across a variety of "services"

It's been done as a trolling technique for ages.

But now it seems like there's more criminal profit potential in extortion, as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services. A growth industry!

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

#26
post #4

To spare everyone the confusion, the author was extorted, not blackmailed. "Any YouTuber" isn't vulnerable to blackmail unless the bad actor has specific compromising information about the YouTuber to threaten with.

Any youtuber that uploads comment/react/compilation/commentary videos are good targets. This is not a new thing. It's been going on for at least 4-5 years if not more. Blackmail is also a thing. "take down video x or I'll strike your account" and such.

>Blackmail is also a thing. "take down video x or I'll strike your account" and such.

That's still not blackmail. Blackmail is when you threaten to divulge information about someone unless they pay you.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

#28

If I'm understanding the attack correctly, its surprising there is not more along these lines - specifically the "trigger big tech company's automate banning against someone" attack. It wouldn't be surprising if this is fairly easy across a variety of "services"

It's been done as a trolling technique for ages.

That’s not trolling.
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