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The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

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Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

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> but if you look for it, you can find some usually anonymous detractors. Seems like a vacuous statement. Isn’t that true of anything/anyone in life?

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this needed to be shared

You're welcome to write your own critique of Stripe or anything else but recycling other people's HN drama is not really in the spirit of the site. Repasting an old provocative comment while withholding context (i.e. not linking it and its rebuttals) is extra lame.

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

#102
post #49

Is it unusual for a successful company like Stripe to take so long to go public? It seems like their house is in order, and they are profitable, but employees aren't liquid.

What happen if they never go public at this stage?

There are many private companies. Some are very big. See space-X as a popular example.

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

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> they just did something better than everyone else Wow, HN's ability to dismiss and diminish major accomplishments continues to astound me.

> got incredibly lucky with entering the market at the exact right time I also found this to be a somewhat shallow analysis, considering their sustained success over a decade.

It might be shallow, but it's right. Nothing wrong with getting lucky.Those guys worked hard and are smart for sure, but luck had a lot to do with it.

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

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post #95

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> Surely many others were brilliant contributors to Stripe's becoming a $95B unicorn, and staying one, beyond just the Collison Brothers. From my experience working at several saas unicorns, in each companies there was 2-3 max people who where responsible for the success of the company. It is not that all others were useless but they all could have been replaced easily without having any impact in the success of the…

It's not difficult to hear, it's just not true. I don't know what sort of companies you've worked at where employees are completely fungible, but I've had the opposite experience, working with many talented and hard working people who make major contributions that help deliver hundreds of millions in revenue. Perhaps you joined them when they were already unicorns and the playbook / moat was already developed, but at…

You can be very talented and do a ton of work without having a bigger business impact than another person doing 50% less than you.

At the end whether you have a design system, if you have infinite scalability, if you use node or Ruby, having that feature or that other feature it doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is the revenue the company make.

If what matters was the people then ngo would be unicorns

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

#105

I know the Collisons are brilliant founders and I have long admired Stripe (I've used their Golang API client as inspiration many times in my own code) but it's kind of unfortunate how founder lore really minimizes employees. Stripe has 4,000 people working there, this article mentions only two other employees in passing (the CPO and CFO). Surely many others were brilliant contributors to Stripe's becoming a $95B uni…

I think that this is not just a story-telling problem. It is a wealth-sharing problem as well. I don't know much about stripe, but think of Bezos as a pretty good example - to a O(n) rounding he has 100 billion dollars and 1 million employees. Why is he getting 100,000 from each employee ? Not because those employees send him a cheque. But because of particular outcomes of share capital, and corporate law. Decisions…

> It is a wealth-sharing problem as well.

The reality is that it's just not possible to start these kinds of Unicorn companies anywhere except in the USA. The EU's extreme policies contribute to an overwhelming burden of tax and employment regulations, which results in risk-averseness. So entrepreneurial Europeans go to USA to start their company.

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

#106

I know the Collisons are brilliant founders and I have long admired Stripe (I've used their Golang API client as inspiration many times in my own code) but it's kind of unfortunate how founder lore really minimizes employees. Stripe has 4,000 people working there, this article mentions only two other employees in passing (the CPO and CFO). Surely many others were brilliant contributors to Stripe's becoming a $95B uni…

I think that this is not just a story-telling problem. It is a wealth-sharing problem as well. I don't know much about stripe, but think of Bezos as a pretty good example - to a O(n) rounding he has 100 billion dollars and 1 million employees. Why is he getting 100,000 from each employee ? Not because those employees send him a cheque. But because of particular outcomes of share capital, and corporate law. Decisions…

Ok. How?

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

#107

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I think that this is not just a story-telling problem. It is a wealth-sharing problem as well. I don't know much about stripe, but think of Bezos as a pretty good example - to a O(n) rounding he has 100 billion dollars and 1 million employees. Why is he getting 100,000 from each employee ? Not because those employees send him a cheque. But because of particular outcomes of share capital, and corporate law. Decisions…

> It is a wealth-sharing problem as well. The reality is that it's just not possible to start these kinds of Unicorn companies anywhere except in the USA. The EU's extreme policies contribute to an overwhelming burden of tax and employment regulations, which results in risk-averseness. So entrepreneurial Europeans go to USA to start their company.

That thesis is hard to square with the fact that it’s not that these unicorns are started in the US, it’s that they are almost all started in one metropolitan area.

The distinguishing factors here aren’t simply European regulations and taxes.

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

#108
post #20

Let's see what will happen for them in this bear market.

The Nasdaq fell as much as it did during Covid, but without any obvious cause or catalyst for the selling. the bear market is probably over now. More likely this is the bottom.

...interest rates rising meaning people seeking returns have safer places to park their money?

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

#109

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I think that this is not just a story-telling problem. It is a wealth-sharing problem as well. I don't know much about stripe, but think of Bezos as a pretty good example - to a O(n) rounding he has 100 billion dollars and 1 million employees. Why is he getting 100,000 from each employee ? Not because those employees send him a cheque. But because of particular outcomes of share capital, and corporate law. Decisions…

Ok. How?

- Stop giving discounted tax rates for capital gains, make people pay the full income tax rate for any kind of income

- Abolish step-up basis, which allows dynasties to build tax-free wealth via "invest, borrow, die"-type strategies. Also other tax avoidance strategies used by the rich e.g. 503cs.

- Stop giving corporations special treatment under anti-trust law compared to other ways of organising. Give unions, workers' co-operatives, and other such organisations, the same rights to act in an organised way that corporations have. (And, conversely, start paying attention to corporate monopolies rather than using the narrow "consumer harm" standard that's been followed in recent years)

Re: The Collison Brothers Built Stripe into a $95B Unicorn

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post #104

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It's not difficult to hear, it's just not true. I don't know what sort of companies you've worked at where employees are completely fungible, but I've had the opposite experience, working with many talented and hard working people who make major contributions that help deliver hundreds of millions in revenue. Perhaps you joined them when they were already unicorns and the playbook / moat was already developed, but at…

You can be very talented and do a ton of work without having a bigger business impact than another person doing 50% less than you. At the end whether you have a design system, if you have infinite scalability, if you use node or Ruby, having that feature or that other feature it doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is the revenue the company make. If what matters was the people then ngo would be unicorns

I'm curious where you've worked to be so confident in this opinion.
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