The problem is obvious and the solution is simple.
Merica has had nearly 30 years to study Dunblane, England, the action and the statistics after.
Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
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Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#622What if guns were treated similarly to cars? Mandatory training, License w/ renewals, registration w/ renewals, insurance mandatory, yearly inspection mandatory, etc. Personally I feel people should be able to defend themselves while at the same time deterred from stockpiling and accessing mass casualty capable arms.
Nobody was talking about reducing access to cars after that guy ran over a ton of old folks in Kenosha a couple months back. In fact no one is talking about it at all as he does not fit the correct political narrative
You are wrong!!! Liberals talk about reducing cars (esp. in cities): improving public transit, increasing biking, improving pedestrian safety, and walking all of the time.
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#623A genuine question: isn't armed population one of the main obstacles of autocratic regimes?
If it is, then mass shootings is the lesser evil compared to, say, Russia, where a handful of armed psychopaths can commit war crimes on a global scale and quickly take down any internal opposition.
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#624Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correlation is not causation. How many times do people need to hear it?
So how should we investigate what _is_ a potential for causation
And only recently has the US government started allowing funds again study the answer to that question:
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#625Question for the pro-gun folks: where is the limit on what a civilian needs to defend themselves? Assuming you agree civilians shouldn’t have nukes. How about fighter jets. What about tanks. What about bazookas. How do you make that call. If, for example, greater than 5 round magazines isn’t the limit, where is the limit and why?
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#626Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's difficult to take that article with more than a grain of salt when there's clear political bias and a lack of proper sourcing from the start. Of course political bias is inevitable, but to claim that our gun laws are the result of a takeover by "a minority of radical extermists" is ridiculous. Then when referencing hard numbers and talking about the influence the NRA may have had, she doesn't back that up with a…
> but to claim that our gun laws are the result of a takeover by "a minority of radical extermists" is ridiculous Why is it ridiculous? Where are your sources for that?
The fact that the majority of Americans have voted time and time again to get our gun laws to where they are today is my source. It's not "extremism" if it wins by popular vote.
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#627Question for the pro-gun folks: where is the limit on what a civilian needs to defend themselves? Assuming you agree civilians shouldn’t have nukes. How about fighter jets. What about tanks. What about bazookas. How do you make that call. If, for example, greater than 5 round magazines isn’t the limit, where is the limit and why?
My serious and simple response would be, why are you turning against law abiding citizens instead of focusing on the psycho criminal that was known to police prior to the event?
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#628Canada is the U.S.'s neighbour and is probably closer, culturally, than any other nation. Gun ownership is also high in Canada. In terms of guns per capita, the U.S. is #1 by a long shot, but Canada is #7 [1]. In Canada, guns owned per capita is one third of what it is in the U.S.. Canada also has mass shootings. The annual deaths from mass shootings per capita in Canada is 0.032, which is about one third that of the…
"Where many U.S. states permit concealed carry of handguns, handguns are virtually illegal to carry in Canada. Transporting them from your home to the range is legal, but they must be unloaded, locked, and permits are required for the transport." I see no mechanism by which those laws would reduce mass shootings. A mass shooter would simply ignore them. The other policies you mention may be more relevant, but it goes…
The mechanism is that guns are harder to get, both legally and illegally, if there are strong controls on their purchase and use. Yes, a mass shooter would ignore the legal implications of getting a gun, but they cannot ignore the fact that there are fewer guns to get.
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#629This is a great time to make “Minority Report” a real thing with precogs catching criminals before they can act.
Minority Report was an argument against such practice because there is no possible interpretation of its success. It can only fail.
A simple interpretation of it succeeding is if horrible things quit happening. What are you on about?
Re: Mental illness, mass shootings, and the politics of American firearms (2015)
#630Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a former gun rights advocate who is now in favor of basically eliminating guns except for hunting… > I think gun owners would be much more receptive to regulation if they felt people were genuinely trying to separate narrow and effective laws from broad infringements that annoy many and accomplish little. From both positions, I’d favor regulation that explicitly aims to limit gun possession as much as legally poss…
Simply: no. Take a cold hard look at the institutions that fail children so spectacularly that they create mass murderers at a historically unprecedented rate.
One of those failing institutions is the one that should be keeping weapons of easy mass-murder out of their hands.