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I was forced to be a child star. It was never my dream or my idea

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Post by kelnos »

pvorb wrote: post #25
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #6

Now think how many children suffered the same fate, but we’ll never hear about it because they did not become famous. Reminds me of “dance moms” or “cheer moms”, “football dads”, etc. If you’re a parent, remember not to live your unfulfilled dreams through your children.

You mean like trying to get your kid into programming, which is a bit more common around here?

I think it's fine to try to get your child into anything you like. But listen to them. Sometimes pushback is just childlike short-sightedness, but other times it's genuine and should be listened to.

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Post by adamors »

iepathos wrote: post #196

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> the abuse I endured. Not their theft of the money I earned. Not the exploitation they allowed. Not the physical and psychological abuse she witnessed firsthand when she made me and my sister do The Curse.

> my dad was so cruel to me, that I seriously contemplated killing myself more than once when I was in my teens.

Your comment is just foul.

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Post by kelnos »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #118
belval wrote: post #54

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Just to push that thought a bit further, it's fine if you don't like stranger things but a mashup of 80s ideas is "original" for more than half the US population (median age is 38 y/o). I'm in my twenties, my parents watched movies in the 80s, and even then they were young. Discounting a TV show because it rips off ideas from things that are 40 years old seems like a harsh stance to take.

Yeah, maybe watch something original and not totally derived from something else, like the Marvel movies, or Sonic the Hedgehog 2, or Fantastic Beasts...

Arguably everything these days must be derived from something else, at least to some extent. Not sure there are really that many viable story ideas out there, and I wouldn't be surprised if the last several thousand years of stories have covered most of them.

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Post by gsatic »

irjustin wrote: post #8

Wow Will was such a part of my childhood watching Star Trek. Obviously, he didn't appear often but he was memorable simply because there were so few people as young as him on the show. Sad to hear this all around. This also brought back memories of me being required to play piano growing up. I hated piano, performing (recitals), playing in general. I was terrrribbleee (still am) and was put up in lessons for 12 years…

'Drill and kill' doesn't just work. It's a requirement to Learning.

Most learning happens only through repeatition/practice. Get them comfortable with repeatition as early as possible and they will be fine.

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Post by mavhc »

tinco wrote: post #136
mavhc wrote: post #15

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And Stranger Things isn't good, it's just a mashup of 80s films that are at least twice as old as the actors, no original ideas at all. The problem is more celebrity rather than the filming process. Make it illegal to report any "news", ie gossip, about anyone under 18 for a start.

Something doesn't have to have original ideas to be good. Stranger Things is specifically great at being unoriginal. The show is brilliantly shot, well paced, engrossing and thrilling and the (child) actors were amazing. Just the 80s feeling it evokes is something I've not and I think the industry has not experienced at that scale in decades. You put it exactly right that it's the celebrity that's the problem. I'm no…

We don't even need to know their names for starters, we can retroactively edit credits once they become adults now.

Fan is short for fanatic after all.

Should there be a right to be forgotten for all children by default?

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Post by ido »

ntlk wrote: post #114
alfiedotwtf wrote: post #71

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FIFY: music you literally cannot play because you don't have as much time to practice compared to you were younger. The wires you speak of come from time, practice, effort and habit - i.e the original meaning of the term kung fu.

This is it. There are periods in life when the time for practice is more likely to be freely available. As an adult there are other responsibilities to be negotiated. I’ve made life choices that now result in having uninterrupted blocks of time for learning to play an instrument in my thirties. I’m surprised at how quickly some things become completely effortless when you have time to practice every day.

Be that as it may, children have a higher degree of neuroplasticity than adults. You would have probably learned even faster as a child.

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Post by mavhc »

belval wrote: post #54
mavhc wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Stranger Things isn't good, it's just a mashup of 80s films that are at least twice as old as the actors, no original ideas at all. The problem is more celebrity rather than the filming process. Make it illegal to report any "news", ie gossip, about anyone under 18 for a start.

Just to push that thought a bit further, it's fine if you don't like stranger things but a mashup of 80s ideas is "original" for more than half the US population (median age is 38 y/o). I'm in my twenties, my parents watched movies in the 80s, and even then they were young. Discounting a TV show because it rips off ideas from things that are 40 years old seems like a harsh stance to take.

It's not that it's ripping off the ideas, it's that that's what it's supposed to be doing. I watched the entire first season waiting for the bit when it got good, nothing happened.

If you want to take reference to old films and do something original with them, like Everything Everywhere All At Once, great.

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Post by Aidevah »

andris9 wrote: post #169
nicolas_t wrote: post #85

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That's something me and my wife struggle with now that we have a child. We both wish we had been pushed more when it comes to music lessons. So, we think we will try to get him to learn piano or an other instrument (except violin). However, we will most likely put a time limit, if after 3 years he still doesn't really like it, he can give it up. The idea, is that I think that for certain things like music, it only re…

My wife had this idea that we had our kids learn less-popular instruments. Viola instead of violin, harpsichord instead of piano. Playing piano is super competetive, you could put a lot of effort into it and still there are so many better players than you. In comparison the local harpsichord community is very happy to have a new member, everybody is supportive and it is much easier for the kids.

Charles Rosen relayed this wonderful anecdote about the great musicologist Oliver Strunk (son of the William Strunk of Strunk & White fame);

>His interests ranged over almost the whole of music, although his appreciation of the modern period may not have gone beyond Bartok. I remember he once told me that he used to own a harpsichord but had exchanged it for a piano, and when I asked why, he said that it was too difficult to sight-read the tone poems of Strauss at the harpsichord.

The piano used to be the gateway to all sorts of music, both vocal, orchestral and chamber, via transcriptions. And enthusiasts would get to know pieces that are performed in concert by sight reading it on their piano at home beforehand. The harpsichord is less versatile than the piano in this regard.

But then again the primary way of getting to know new music nowadays has been through recordings, and this has been the case for a very long time, so the practical deficiencies of the harpsichord compared to the piano may be less noticeable now. On the other hand, learning a continuo instrument like the harpsichord invariably involves some sort of training in improvised thoroughbass, which is an extremely valuable skill that is not found among pianists, so I think it's a pretty good choice in the end after all.

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