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Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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NonNefarious wrote: post #65
iamcurious wrote: post #24

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If only parents could exert some sort of influence or authority over others harming their children. We could call it "sueing".

What a lazy, pathetic attitude. Why don't you sue candy makers while you're at it? If you don't want to perform a parent's job, DON'T HAVE KIDS. I detest social-media companies in general, but clogging up our courts with this namby-pamby bullshit is offensive to every citizen. And ugh, just as people were mocking Reddit's declining culture, a couple of them turn around and down-mod this oh-so-hurtful sentiment. Pull…

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Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

czhu12 wrote: post #72

Creating regulations like this may end up acting as a regulatory moat for existing social network companies. This probably makes the overall social media pie smaller overall but guarantees incumbents slice of the pie. We've seen this happen in other highly regulated areas such as healthcare, telecommunications, etc. I suspect the way things are trending, in 10 years, very few entrepreneurs would be willing to start a…

> very few entrepreneurs would be willing to start a new social media company.

I’m not sure this is a bad thing. Is the world better and happier from social media? Do we want it to keep rising from the ashes and sowing misery, ignorance, and depression? Maybe it is my nostalgia glasses but I feel like everyone I know was happier when the only way to communicate long distance for the average person was a rotary phone that weighed about 20 lbs.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Post by Teever »

lupire wrote: post #47
Teever wrote: post #38

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Would you say the same thing if someone was standing outside an elementary school peddling drugs and cigarettes? Or creepy dudes who offer to buy alcohol for minors to get in their pants? The world is a big place and it's impossible for parents to be everywhere they need to be for their kids all the time. It's only gotten unfathomably bigger since the advent of the web and the explosion of social media.

It's interesting when people advocate both "free range children" and "helicopter parenting" at the same time.

That would be interesting to see. Where do you see that?

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Post by benatkin »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #122
czhu12 wrote: post #72

Creating regulations like this may end up acting as a regulatory moat for existing social network companies. This probably makes the overall social media pie smaller overall but guarantees incumbents slice of the pie. We've seen this happen in other highly regulated areas such as healthcare, telecommunications, etc. I suspect the way things are trending, in 10 years, very few entrepreneurs would be willing to start a…

> very few entrepreneurs would be willing to start a new social media company. I’m not sure this is a bad thing. Is the world better and happier from social media? Do we want it to keep rising from the ashes and sowing misery, ignorance, and depression? Maybe it is my nostalgia glasses but I feel like everyone I know was happier when the only way to communicate long distance for the average person was a rotary phone…

Yes, it's a very bad thing. There are a lot of different types of social media. How about projects with Discourse forums? That could be considered social media. Do you want to force them onto Facebook?

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Post by seoaeu »

sneak wrote: post #120
efields wrote: post #119

Raising the age minimum on digital services from 13 to 16 or 17 would probably fix a lot of the ills caused by it. And/or teach media literacy from a young age. And anyone here who reduces teenage digital addictions to “bad parenting” can pound sand. Nothing about parenting is simply the result of “the parents” and their methods. Raising a child is an impossibly multi-variate occupation and you only have so many knob…

As long as parents can deny their children digital devices, the ills of the use of same can be assigned to the choices of the parents.

As long as parents can deny their children spending money, the blame for liquor stores marketing and selling to children can be assigned to the parents.

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Post by travisporter »

voidfunc wrote: post #99
esrauch wrote: post #67

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Do you think cigarettes and alcohol should be legal for sale to children? What about advertising specifically targeted at getting kids interested and hooked on cigarettes? What about child labor? Why not let just parents decide what's right for their kids? There's some behaviors of corporations interacting with children that are correctly regulated in the interest of the broader society we live in. It is completely v…

> 1. Do you think cigarettes and alcohol should be legal for sale to children? Yes. But age limits on them should still exist but be lowered (to say 13). Parents need to teach their kids how to responsibly enjoy vices. In general I think all vice laws should be purged from the books. > 2. What about advertising specifically targeted at getting kids interested and hooked on cigarettes? I'm okay with some limits on add…

Age 13? You can’t tell my 12yo what to do. I have every right to let them work in the coal mines. It builds character. /s Labor laws are ruining this country (Ron Swanson, parks&rec)

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Post by klyrs »

jerrya wrote: post #68

In recent days, I've seen many of these topics discussed by quite well respected First Amendment lawyers on Twitter. The current that ubiquitously runs through their tweets is that their understanding of the 1A informs their advocating for courts to find that the First Amendment prohibits basically any regulation on social media sites including transparency of moderation policies or decisions, identification, regulat…

With some dismay, I'll note that this appears to follow in the theme of the Texas abortion ban. The law doesn't empower the state to prosecute, it empowers citizens. This approach is nothing short of an end-run on the constitution, and if it isn't stopped, the potential consequences are terrifying.

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Post by UberFly »

jmyeet wrote: post #32

What I've come to realize in recent years is there are an awful lot of people who have children who don't want to be parents. It's like they don't even like children but it seems like they're running down a Life checklist of things you should do. Or maybe they like the idea of having adult children? I really don't know. But I know so many people who don't actually like spending time with their children. I get some pe…

That's a very jaundiced view of parents. The problem is that social media is ubiquitous and eventually kids will be introduced to it overwhelmingly. Unless your child is repressed and not allowed around other kids, etc it's going to be a part of their daily lives. If social media companies are predatory towards minors it'll continue to get worse. Parents are trying, believe me but it's a loosing battle.

Re: California parents could soon sue for social media addiction

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Post by smt88 »

benatkin wrote: post #124
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #122

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> very few entrepreneurs would be willing to start a new social media company. I’m not sure this is a bad thing. Is the world better and happier from social media? Do we want it to keep rising from the ashes and sowing misery, ignorance, and depression? Maybe it is my nostalgia glasses but I feel like everyone I know was happier when the only way to communicate long distance for the average person was a rotary phone…

Yes, it's a very bad thing. There are a lot of different types of social media. How about projects with Discourse forums? That could be considered social media. Do you want to force them onto Facebook?

Discord doesn't have an addictive algorithm and seems like it would be totally safe.
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