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Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by MandieD »

secondcoming wrote: post #444
MandieD wrote: post #435

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That's one of the big differences: the only thing a normal person in France, Germany or the rest of western Europe* could do that involves a 1200/month repayment is buy property (or an absolutely ridiculous car). A lot of the younger employees I work with got paid while doing their bachelor's degrees because they did dual degree programs, where they're employed by a big industrial company and alternate terms having i…

> involves a 1200/month repayment is buy property Rent?

Rent’s definitely an expense, but isn’t a loan.

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Post by FerociousTimes »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #471
zmxz wrote: post #450

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Then you also don't have any problem if better candidate appears and challenges your position, right?

Where the hell are you working where someone can come in and challenge you for your job? I’ve been working for over 30 years and this has literally never happened.

Where do you work exactly and what do you do for a living?

Because new hires vying for more influence in the office has been a staple of the modern workplace and organizational politics for a long time now.

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Post by thebean11 »

kgwgk wrote: post #462
aixi wrote: post #436

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In most EU countries that is not a good wage

Depends on your definition of good. 50k+ is above average (almost?) everywhere and is more than twice the EU average.

The median wage in the US is like $35k, but that does not mean $70k is a high dev salary..

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by skinnymuch »

mostertoaster wrote: post #373
skinnymuch wrote: post #295

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Most people in 2010 would’ve taken a $500B or even $300B market cap FB as a major tech company right now without any expectation of getting too much bigger than that ever. $300B, $400B, $500B are still top 25, 15, and 10 in the world today.

But would’ve they predicted the that value of those 300B US dollars would be worth so much less? Many tech companies during COVID gained legitimate value, just like many housing markets, but most the increase in their US dollar price was simply the value of the dollar being less.

I’d think so. Whether they realize it or not. Since inflation for the US isn’t a crazy situation without precedent. 2021, 2022 have been a lot more for inflation, but this century has overall been something that is not unexpected.

Looking at how big FB is vs other companies makes a metric like inflation not as important as all companies and thus all investments are affected by inflation.

So, still, any of the example market caps for FB today would’ve been gladly accepted by almost every one in 2010, regardless of the specific percentage of inflation that has happened. FB would still be a top 25 company in market cap at $300B. Top 20 if looking at US only.

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Post by hapiri »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #518
hapiri wrote: post #514

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I thought we're already over with the "every minute of your life is monetizable" mindset ?

I am. But I also learn stuff I can apply on my job. I find it nothing out of order. I’m doing this job for 22 years.

then i would consider it working hours, so the premise here seems to reduce to how much overtime i'm willing to spend.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

cryptica wrote: post #190
bnt wrote: post #2

Their honesty should be applauded. Imagine they hired you and then had to fire you in 6 months. Keep in touch with the PM if you liked them and see how they perform in the next 12 months.

How is that a good thing? You can earn good money in 6 months. One time I took a 2-week web development job to stand in for someone who left for a holiday while a project was overdue. It was an interesting experience. I wish the economy was more like this; more unpredictable and more focused on deliverables than hours worked.

Most people would rather spend a little bit longer looking to avoid a job reset. First, the job market could be worse in 6 months. Secondly, any extra work that you put into onboard and ingratiate yourself with colleagues is wasted

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Post by rmbyrro »

michaelrpeskin wrote: post #511
rmbyrro wrote: post #459

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You'd be surprised by (probably) how easy would be to tie your account to you. But I respect the care to your own privacy.

If I _really_ cared, I'd never post publicly at all. Just trying to not be obvious who I am in real life. Every night when I plug in my phone and go to bed, I always say "good night NSA" because I assume I'm always being tracked :)

Yeah, totally agree you don't need to make it obvious.

But any smart, motivated actor can probably derive who you are from your posts.

You probably give away little hints about yourself, interests, tech you use, etc. Cross referencing with data leaks, public Github commits, LinkedIn profile, the time you usually post here (tells your TZ), etc, it's not far fetched to determine who you are...

Re: Tell HN: Job interview canceled due to looming recession

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Post by camgunz »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #518
hapiri wrote: post #514

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I thought we're already over with the "every minute of your life is monetizable" mindset ?

I am. But I also learn stuff I can apply on my job. I find it nothing out of order. I’m doing this job for 22 years.

I think there are are 2 situations here:

- I like [thing I do at my job] and I don't mind doing it outside of working hours. An incidental side benefit of this is I learn skills that enhance my career.

- A company I work for or am interviewing at is unhappy I don't like doing [thing I do there] outside of working hours, and either will fire me or not hire me unless I change.

The difference is "do companies use this as a metric", and I think it's pretty clear they shouldn't. If they do, they run into all kinds of other biases, mostly that you select out people who have family obligations (you're a parent, your partner also works, you have a sick family member, etc.).

Further, it creates a race to the bottom dynamic where a super important part of your life--your career--asks more and more from the other parts of your life. You shouldn't be able to get ahead of other people in your career by telling your kid to figure out algebra on their own, and if you can, people who advance in their careers (who will have more power in the workplace and thus society) will be the kinds of people who either had the resources to otherwise meet their other obligations (hire a tutor, nurse, etc.), or the kinds of people who didn't care about shirking them.

That's why maintaining this line is so important. It avoids an incentive structure that would empower the already privileged or the irresponsible.

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