Statement on 4 Years of GDPR

Post by criddell » Wed, May 25, 2022, 2:49 PM UTC

superkuh wrote: post #91

aidanhs wrote: post #66

In the context of the GDPR, I just want to remind people of this thread where a HN user invokes their rights in order to make Spotify back down on a change that would have locked user playlists into their service for no good reason - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24764371 (can't be 100% sure this is what made Spotify change direction, but it seems likely)

Yikes, what an enlightening demonstration of how bad GDPR and it's users really are. Instead of taking control of their own music by having it on disk this user decided to rely a third party service and then became so upset when the service changed they threatened legal attacks. Services like this should probably block all nation states that support GDPR.

Post by franga2000 » Wed, May 25, 2022, 2:55 PM UTC

InfiniteRand wrote: post #94

ckastner wrote: post #10

This is an excellent quote that reflects a notable share of opinions that I see in the comments here on HN whenever the GDPR is discussed: > Hardly any other area of law is politicized to that extent – at least I have never heard that building or tax codes were openly ignored with the argument that compliance would “undermine the business model” of a company. The privacy bubble accepts such narratives as a legitimate…

That's a very strange argument by the OP, there are massive arguments about whether/how building codes and zoning laws undermine the ability of developers to build new housing.

Post by riedel » Wed, May 25, 2022, 3:00 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #86

paol wrote: post #56

This article is excessively negative on the effectiveness of the law. I would say the biggest issue is inconsistent enforcement by DPAs. The other problems are overstated. Believe me, as someone who sees things from the inside of european companies, compliance is still taken very seriously.

> the biggest issue is inconsistent enforcement by DPAs. The other problems are overstated. Wasn't this called out repeatedly over the years and obvious from the start? That a double forum shopping model will produce paperwork and voluntary compliance, in cases where the offender literally didn't know they were misbehaving, but little real action?

Post by JumpCrisscross » Wed, May 25, 2022, 3:03 PM UTC

riedel wrote: post #105

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the biggest issue is inconsistent enforcement by DPAs. The other problems are overstated. Wasn't this called out repeatedly over the years and obvious from the start? That a double forum shopping model will produce paperwork and voluntary compliance, in cases where the offender literally didn't know they were misbehaving, but little real action?

Just want to point out that this not an issue only between European countries but also a problem e.g. inside Germany. [1]: a major information breach at a car rental company went with literary no consequences, while other cases get fined so high that they can easily fight decisions in court. I understand people if they complain about GDPR because it produces paperwork but in the end nobody cares about it. A central E…

Post by 2Gkashmiri » Wed, May 25, 2022, 3:05 PM UTC

coffeeblack wrote: post #106

jaywalk wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you always clear browsing data on exit, then what difference does having a reject all button make?

If you have a /etc/hosts file that redirects 10000 tracker domains to 0.0.0.0 then you don’t even need to clear any browsing data. Plus, you don’t see ads anymore without any browser plugins.